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Title: The spell that's annoying... Post by Trust on 07/17/03 at 22:21:09 Ya ive come across a few people with the same problem as me..... Justice Zone-really stupid spell that makes it where u cant pk people on a square..kinda protecting people from pkers...Makes the game less interesting for me to play anymore....same goes for Lesser pact and greater pact... then we got that spell Subdue..makes me feel like im hittin people with 220 mil exp...whut about all the exp people actually gained so that dont hit for half....then create a spell which makes u hit for half...kinda Retarted if u ask me... My 2 cents in |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Lit on 07/17/03 at 22:27:34 pacifists i thought were for people who didn't like to pk, who just sit on here and chat. That's why i never payed attention to this class, but now people are just saying yea we'll fight and they fetch their pacifist. so now there's no fight, there's just whoever fetches their pacifist first preventing the other from attacking.. does make the game boring. |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Mephistroth on 07/17/03 at 22:27:34 I quite like it actually, makes the game much more interesting. Also makes me glad Righteous Fury ran out before I hit a pacifist ;D |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Outsider on 07/17/03 at 22:32:22 Every idiot who cant play a real class, rolls a pacifists and irritates ppl who can actually play. I've seen some before, and not being able to do anything sucks. |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Trust on 07/17/03 at 22:41:18 First thing i can agree with u on Outsider ;D |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Ashton on 07/17/03 at 22:50:43 I think you guys just need to stop whining and deal with the fact you have to watch what you attack now...it's fun to cause reverse pking, of course you're going to get pissed, but it's just the opposite, instead of the person you kill getting pissed, you get pissed because you killed yourself. Stop crying and play the game |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Misu on 07/17/03 at 22:54:27 well pacifists REALLY suck if u ask me .... well it makes u be more carefull when u PK so that u wont round urself wich is funny :o but hell the other spells r SUCKYY !!! WTF is this game coming 2 !? ??? ppl hacking in 2 ur acct and now this nutsy class >:( well the only thing i can say is DUDES dont pay nuts loads of money on the archys or the 27+ pacifists they will sell with about 100k / arch LMAO ::) |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Lit on 07/17/03 at 22:56:41 ashton, if you read the topic (if you can read) it's not about attacking a pacifist it's about the spells they've got to keep you from attacking pkable players. ::) |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Ashton on 07/17/03 at 22:58:04 I think you people just got used to it being easy to kill someone due to hit and run improvements, now that there's something to make it a little more difficult and you have to be more careful you whine. I don't think there's anything funnier than when some idiot tries to kill me and he ends up dying from his own smite. I think it's all in good fun and it you can't live with it then just quit the game. |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Lit on 07/17/03 at 23:00:47 rofl i think it's funny people like you agree with a pacifist probably because you suck dong at fighting.. so you resort to pacifists |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Ashton on 07/17/03 at 23:01:58 on 07/17/03 at 22:56:41, Lit wrote:
obviously I can read or I wouldn't be here... So what if they can make a player non-attackable? it's not like they can do it to their own crits so it's of no benefit to them, if you took those spells away what would you propose they do? run around healing and leveling to arch for no purpose at all? it may not be fun for you because it takes your ability to kill someone away, but it's fun for the pacifist. no matter how different you get your amusement it's still amusement. soon the pacifists will calm down as people will want to level their mains again. just deal with it until then |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Ashton on 07/17/03 at 23:02:57 on 07/17/03 at 23:00:47, Lit wrote:
Actually, I like them because it pisses people like you off. quite fun if you ask me ;D |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Lit on 07/17/03 at 23:12:54 you think a person of your intelligence pisses me off? that's even funnier, don't you know you can just fetch a pacifist make a square non-pkable and then bring your party to attack? fair fights have now gone out the window, wars with clans, attributes that make this game fun. the other day i was fighting a clan and they came back with more numbers, and said wait let me fetch my pacifist. i mean what's the point in collecting equip, or even training a char if someone can just grab a pacifist and completely paralyze any form of attack? |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Ashton on 07/17/03 at 23:15:01 to my knowledge the square is only that way unless the pacifist is there, hence the 1 mana every 5 seconds or whatever. I'd like to ask you, why do you pk? |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Lit on 07/17/03 at 23:22:35 why do i pk hmm? what else would i do, it does appear that's what this game was created for. why do i collect stat modifiers, to make a character stronger no? what's the point in making a character stronger if im never gonna fight someone? why do you play this game if not for pking? i have aim for chatting with friends.. and since nightmist has become a big "chat community" not everyone wants to pk.. doesn't mean the game wasn't created for that purpose, clan enemy clan ally i mean common. that's why pacifist seems to be the answer for people like you, but in the process im saying it shouldn't hinder people who play for pure pking enjoyment. |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Ashton on 07/17/03 at 23:25:45 no that was too much of an answer jeezus, all I was looking for was amusement, unless of course it's your life, and these spells for a pacifist... why do you think they use them? the answer...amusement. so what's the difference? you're getting pissy because someone elses fun is ruining your's. seems very selfish to me, find something else to do, pk somewhere else besides southgate, doesn't seem to be many pacifists around bt now does there? no, there's nothing for them there. migrate, adapt, and for god sakes shut up |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Bean on 07/17/03 at 23:26:29 Lol i dont think you people understand that you can only log on the pacifist and thats it. you cant log on alts at all while ur playing ur pacifist. ALSO the justice zone spell *Yeah with all like... 3 pacifists that can use it yet* You have to stay on the square for it to continue working. So NO they couldnt just go get thier alts afterwards, because the square would become pkable HENCE making your arguement totally useless. |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Lit on 07/17/03 at 23:32:06 so what is the explanation for this, the other day i was using grasping vines and a pacifist was cought and casted and other people came and were caught in the square i couldn't attack them but they were attacking me? Modify: reguardless clans will use a ginny pig to log on pacifists, 'hence' now it's just a war of who logs on a pacifist first. |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Trust on 07/17/03 at 23:35:04 Hey ashton how about i shut your mouth again like i have too many times ingame AGAIN..huh lil man i dare ya / MT to meet me anywhere so i can own u's again ;D |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Ashton on 07/17/03 at 23:41:23 /t lit I don't know about vines, that seems like a bug to me /t trust you're a moron, what does that have to do with what we're talking about, stop avoiding the conversation by saying you will kill me in game, right now I couldn't care less about that Edit: Trust = Dank? |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Trust on 07/17/03 at 23:41:57 btw /nod Lit ;D |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Trust on 07/17/03 at 23:42:54 No im not dank u moron |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Ashton on 07/17/03 at 23:44:45 who then? because I don't recall being killed by a crit named trust Edit: who cares...it's getting off topic deal with pacifists end of story |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Mephistroth on 07/18/03 at 15:42:15 I agree, quit whining because it makes pking slightly harder. So far its only two people that are against them spells, I don't think there going to change them just because two retards who are obsessed with pking complain. Btw Trust, I think Ashton thought you were Dank because you have the same spinning weed thing as him. |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Outsider on 07/18/03 at 16:57:17 I never pk, never really killed anyone unless they attacked one of my crits and i still think it sucks. Ppl will find ways too pk with a pacifist and some other crits, they will go to places kill ppl, then the pacifist walks in after the pkers finished theire rounds and makes it a non-pk area, And they can do that anywhere they want. p.s dont say u cant log on a pacifist and other crits as well, im talking about friends playing together. |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Ashton on 07/18/03 at 17:17:04 yeah Mephistroth Outsider, I doubt anyone would do that because it's such a pain in the ass, and if you think about it the attacking party usually only gets off a round or two before the other people react and attack back, so if they waited until all their crits were done attacking there's still a chance for them to die, and if they don't they probably won't kill anything |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by WiccanTrails on 07/18/03 at 22:53:12 I find this all interesting. People laugh when they get paged because they pk'ed someone. They say they PK because there's nothing better to do or they find it fun. Well, in this case the pacifists are fun. They do challenge those that pk out of boredom. Now I have several crits in this game. Some that have been PK'ed many times and some that has down right owned some people. I find it entertaining how now the pk'ers are whining because they aren't getting their way. I think the pacifist class evens the scale. Yes the spells are fun. And of course, yes those who rely on PK'ing for entertainment will whine. It's to be expected. Afterall, why wouldn't they whine after getting a taste of their own dish? |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Outsider on 07/19/03 at 08:41:17 on 07/18/03 at 22:53:12, WiccanTrails wrote:
on 07/18/03 at 16:57:17, Outsider wrote:
Shut up plz |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Quince on 07/19/03 at 17:51:12 For all the ppl on here crying i don't see a decent in the pacifist in game /giggle ::) |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Sausage on 07/19/03 at 21:16:45 Try /who Resurgam. |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Lit on 07/20/03 at 00:44:32 /t Mephistroth, WiccanTrails, Quince: if you care to get spanked ingame just give me your alt names and i'll be happy to oblige, just meet me at southern gatehouse 8) Modify: that's if your crits are a high enough lvl to hit ;) |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by -Gaddy- on 07/20/03 at 01:04:34 Hmm..maybe people dont like it because they know that now Devout will hopefully be able to sit at any boss w/o dealing with people attacking their crits cause Archie said he'd cast it for us? Begining to see that maybe people will not be able to simply take a boss over by running in a big power group and killing people...will depend on some luck of getting the killing blow. If people weren't so caught up in PKing all the time they'd have a lot more fun in the game, i mean..dueling and pking is fun, much, but it is also fun to just kind of go wander around every once in a while and stuff...why not try lvling one and playing around on it before you are so upset about it? (and no this post isnt suppose to be saying devout will be getting all of the bosses, not saying other clans actually had that as any reason, i was just saying..now we can go to a boss w/o having to be wiped out or attacked or having hit and runs preformed on us...i thought TR would love this...they can go to CG w/o people hitting and logging, same with any other clan that has had this problem...) |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by WiccanTrails on 07/20/03 at 01:39:24 I agree Gaddy. Before anyone complains they should level a pacifist. Those who come back with "Who's your alts and I'll show you ..." Are being stupid and immature over a class they apparently know nothing about other than the fact it interfers with some sort of PK'ing fun. I look at the source of those that's complaining and figure if they'd take the time to give the class a chance, their view would be different. So all you can do is let them whine like the babies they're acting and move on. |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by the Kiheitai on 07/21/03 at 03:17:48 If I remember correctly, lesser and greater pact also prevent you from attacking monsters correct? So I can no longer train my cleric in the barracks or any other crit anywhere a pacifist sits since i have to wait for the spell to wear off only to have it recast... I think that ability is rediculous. Pacifists have to much of an advantage. They own undead and prevent anyone else from getting any shots in...but hey, I am only a simple player and our opinions are exactly that... |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Ashton on 07/21/03 at 03:24:19 I think preventing attacks against monsters is bs, against people I can understand, greater pact should be changed or removed |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Selene on 07/21/03 at 09:31:54 on 07/20/03 at 00:44:32, Lit wrote:
Noah, can I join to..?! I wanna be spanked.. wait until I get Justice Zone though.. lol.. :P |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Outsider on 07/21/03 at 15:28:23 And another thing, i thought pacifists couldnt group, Arilac, Pandilex just went North. :P Edit: was in baracks while he was lvling. |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Bean on 07/21/03 at 20:55:37 *gasp* Pandilex! you big meanie! |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Sausage on 07/21/03 at 20:57:59 I am a witness to Pandilex's severe abuse of power as well!! >:( |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Mephistroth on 07/21/03 at 22:01:31 lmao, I've seen him quite often aswell. |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Harky on 07/22/03 at 00:46:40 I'm Arilac, he was just tracking me - not in a party. I think pacifists are great, the first class that's actually kept my interest long enough to keep leveling it after a day since the reset. Of course things are going to be unbalanced at first, some spells will need to be fixed - but arguing like this on the forums isn't going to achieve it. Make a list of all the spells that make things unbalanced/gay, and what you propose could be changed about them. |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by -Gaddy- on 07/22/03 at 05:57:55 I must agree...they shouldnt be able to make people unable to attack a monster..that just ruins a lot of things in the game, they will own the undead less here in a while when not everyone is training a pacifist, only clans with dedicated enough members will use one to cast Jutice Zone and let their clannies get the kill on a boss or atleast make sure they're not killed, but i know i am one who would be willing to do so :) and i think we've got plenty of others in clan that would be willing also, but i dont think it'd be fair for them to cast greater pact and keep others from killing it too..then someone else just logs a pacifist and no one can hit the boss and he just begins to rape everyone and then everyone has to log or leave (if it is the CG you're screwed and must log) but ya...it really is unfair to keep people from hitting a boss and some people need to grow up, but keeping your clannies from being attacked at one A+ idea. |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Outsider on 07/22/03 at 16:58:06 on 07/22/03 at 00:46:40, Harky wrote:
Mages cant track ::) |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Pandilex on 07/22/03 at 18:33:18 Mages can't teleport either or edit maps, or ban people, so I guess I must be an imposter :o |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Jurian on 07/22/03 at 18:59:40 on 07/22/03 at 18:33:18, Pandilex wrote:
nah your jsut a cheater :D j/k that's really lucky with only needing 20 captain kills to get drop lol :D |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Outsider on 07/22/03 at 19:16:50 on 07/22/03 at 18:33:18, Pandilex wrote:
Mages cant teleport, then my mage is a sysop too cuz mine can, im special. ;D |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by High on 07/22/03 at 19:32:36 on 07/17/03 at 22:54:27, Misu wrote:
WTF are you talking about? 100k for an arch that can take bosses without getting killed. You're a ****ing newb, you don't know the value of ****. Why don't you just go do ur cat some more you little dumbass. |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Dys on 07/24/03 at 14:12:25 well i can honestly say Pacifist is the absolute worste class ever... i have in fact used/lvled a pacifist and i see no point in them besides being a major annoyance to not only pkers but also those that are just simply training.... i dont think they need to be modified at all.. i think they should be removed from the game alltogether... the only good thing about them is the fact that they cant die by being attacked by players and yes i do think its funny when someone rounds themself attacking 1... but they cant do anything else that of much interest so why have them....? they can attack undead for alot... wow big deal... can't clerics do the same but with more abbilities that are actually useful? |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Outsider on 07/24/03 at 14:13:44 Theire moneymakers, and tavern sitters. |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Proteus on 07/25/03 at 06:17:06 Ive found alot of uses for mine actually.. |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Vodka on 07/27/03 at 16:49:10 Uh Oh... You bought the book of Justice Zone for 15000 gold pieces. ;) |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Origenes on 07/27/03 at 18:08:00 Pasifists are just fine. If you don't like no-pk class, don't play them. I'm glad that there are now one no-pk class in the game. Thanks for it. |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Cule on 07/28/03 at 15:10:53 yeh thx for my behalf too :D i had a really blast with my 5 stat perfect pacifist wich i lvl'ed to lvl 18 in about 1h 45 mins and traded it to an archy. ;D |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Lit on 07/30/03 at 02:36:51 Justice Zone, level 25, 20 mana casting - 1 mana every 5 seconds, 15k gold - Players on the same square as the pacifist can't pk. Anyone attempting to do so gets the damage dealt back to themselves. Subdue, level 14, 25 mana, 2000 gold - Lasts for 2 minutes on a player target, or 5 minutes on self. Causes the target to deal half damage and be dealt half damage from monsters and players. If the target is a healer, it heals undead for half also, however still heals players for full. If the target is a pacifist, heal is not affected. true these spells effect everyone on the square, but what about people who aren't on the square? another player comes on the square and attacks me, but i can't attack them because im still under the spell that was casted from before. pacifists paralyze all other classes taking all the pride out of winning a fair fight, and if they can't be attacked then why make a square nonpkable? why should they have the ability to interfere with other players combat..aren't they passive? most of their spells seem to have a negative effect. pac·i·fism - Such opposition demonstrated by refusal to participate in military action. |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Bean on 07/30/03 at 03:49:13 Subdue doesnt affect everyone on the square. Subdue causes you both to DEAL, AND BE DEALT half damage. so in pking purposes you are at no disadvantage. Justice zone comes into effect with EVERYONE on the square, as soon as you walked on a square you would come under the effects of the justice zone spell. Hence the 5 mana per second.... So someone couldnt walk on the square and pk you while you are unable to pk... |
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Title: Re: The spell that's annoying... Post by Drac on 07/30/03 at 20:57:26 I at first was against the ideas of pacifists.. that is.. until i saw their capabilities.. and then had em used against me. im sure everyone has seen what they can do to players at bosses. enough of them can pretty much decide who gets the boss drop. also, for you pkers, they are great spies to use in the barracks and museum. You just log some alts in one of these two locations.. and level ur pacifist at the same time.. when players come up.. log ur paci off and log ur other crits on and kill them.. then get back to training ur pacifist lol. high level ones are also great money makers, and since they are self-sufficient with mana, you dont have to make trips to the pot shop.. u can just train/make gold til ur heart is content. I think pacifists are just fine how they are.. they are a swell addition to nightmist and a good challenge for most. :) |
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