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Title: Triplex Post by Roc on 09/06/03 at 23:00:38 This has been brought up before and even in a few Trilplex's it has been dealt with. Adepts in the Triplex. This is as annoying as it gets. The Triplex is the 1 event each week where players take thier best crits, best armor and jazziest potions and do what they do. To put an adept on a team simply means that team loses. To my knowledge there has only been 1 adept to ever make it to the final round in the almost 2 years I have been playing. It was Noname. So what is the sense in having them in there. Level 27+ is my suggestion. Not that it matters at all but I will not join any other Triplex's until something is done. If Adepts want a Triplex then run it like the Saturday fights on HBO. You have light weight, middle weight and finally heavy weight fights. 1-20, 21-26 and finally a 27-30 Triplex. let me hear your 2 cents on it. |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Bean on 09/06/03 at 23:02:58 Never been in a triplex myself... >:( I page almost every time im on for one, but never get in :'( |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by -Gaddy- on 09/06/03 at 23:04:47 Sounds good, but...prizes for lower lvl triplexes? Ya, i dont like that any lvl can join triplex, it completely screws anyone who is on their team. I got in one time with silex as a journeyman, but got JLH to tkae me out...cause i didnt want to screw anyone over, or get teamed with clannies especiallly. |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Kael on 09/06/03 at 23:05:57 Seems like a good idea.. |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Sausage on 09/06/03 at 23:08:42 I think the 2 lower level triplexs would just be for bragging rights. Although level 27 + seems.. ack I don't know. Either 25 or 27+ seems good to me. But something NEEDS to be done. |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Kazuya on 09/07/03 at 01:50:16 Triplex should be for lvl 30's but 27+ seems fine cuz liek roc said thsts when u get your best crit and armor and stuff to just loose cuz a gd lvl 10-15 is playing on your team.. if poele whine cuz they dont have any lvl 27+ crits well its not hard to lvl and plus not everyone who wants to join something can join it look at the NFL and NBA and MLB only the best get drafted and the others dont cuz they not good enough |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Bean on 09/07/03 at 02:18:03 Well I dunno about the NFL ::) |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by DannysGirl on 09/07/03 at 04:39:40 i think it should be 25+ when your at 25 you get some of the best armor, and can hold your own... |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Exor on 09/07/03 at 05:22:06 I support this idea and I think it should be level 27+. |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by DannysGirl on 09/07/03 at 05:51:00 whats items are level 27+? i mean really, a wepon with a couple more base damage? a couple more items that give you a little dex? a little armor? 50 hp? i know from experience, it isnt too hard to take out an arch with an expert |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Sausage on 09/07/03 at 05:52:26 Sg's. Boots of Time. I know there's more. Someone help me out here. |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by DannysGirl on 09/07/03 at 05:54:05 sg's, emerald dagger, blade of time, crystal rings, AoP, Boots of time, amulet of lag protection, im trembling in me feet at these items... |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Sausage on 09/07/03 at 05:55:46 I wasn't including level 30 items...... And CR is level 25. And what's the difference between AoH and AoLP? (They both give +1 Dex. I'm not talking about it being a rare and what not.) |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Lich on 09/07/03 at 06:16:22 I think he is right 27+ even though that would rule me out excet for one crit. Honestly a lvl 25 & 26 with everything you could possible get at that lvl can not contend with lvls 29 and 30 a 27 has a bit more of a chance. not much but a bit more. And you should be worried about those items because as it was shown to me if you have just one weapon that brings your armor down even slightly more than who ever your facing you could loose. But I also think they should run one for the lower lvl's as well to keep it for other's to get a chance.. Because with the pkers as they are now its not as easy as it appears to lvl anymore. |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by dognapot on 09/07/03 at 06:35:53 triplex is as fine as it can be. after instating a minimum level you're still going to vulnerable to people throwing fights for personal/clan reasons, or just being teamed with morons. i just think triplex is sort of worthless anyhow, and why try and fix inherently broken themes. i mean, it's not fair, it doesn't represent any sort of personal achievement (despite there being only one winner), and the prize is rather negligable on it's own. so why bother trying to fix it? |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Sera on 09/07/03 at 07:08:25 I believe the reason they chose lvl 27 was not because of item requirements, but because that is when zerks get their final stam... |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by DannysGirl on 09/07/03 at 08:05:54 ...i havent had to many problems taking out people with lvl 25's, ive taken out people with blades of time, with cobalt staff, and even 1 person with an emerald dagger, it isnt hard if you actually know what your doing...lvl 25's really aren't at much of a dissadvantage against lvl 30's |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Violate on 09/07/03 at 09:44:51 sad to say emerald daggers and blades of time are lvl 30 weapons. its good to state your opinion but bsing things isnt quite necessary. I vote yes on this idea, only reason i can see it not being implemented is staff time or willingness to want to put such effort do to player attitutude or lack of time for it. |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Eternyte on 09/07/03 at 10:38:27 DannysGirl, may I ask as to what players you have beaten that possess a Blade of Time, Cobalt or Emerald Dagger? I think lvl 27+ is a good thing. Unless timing is put back in then I wouldnt mind being teamed with sub level 25 players. Also the sooner Triplex is automated the better. There are numerous events that could be held every month or whatever. Maybe some of those suugestions already put forward could be discussed between the staff team. |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by alone on 09/07/03 at 10:46:28 Would lvl 29+ make more sense? That way every class has at least 5 stam.. |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Eternyte on 09/07/03 at 11:29:00 It would, but does anything on Nightmist actually make sense? Although a level 27 cleric, could probably beat every level 30 when played correctly. Plus as Sera said Zerk get 6 stamina. So level 27 seems a bit more realistic, plus most players can get to level 27 without getting bored like the 27-30 leveling. |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Jurian on 09/07/03 at 12:06:09 on 09/07/03 at 11:29:00, Eternyte wrote:
wouldn't zerkers have an advantage at lvl 27 compared to a lvl 27 of any other class? they have like 2 more stam then rangers. normally a zerker would lose to a ranger but i'm not sure about it at lvl 27. |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Sera on 09/07/03 at 12:13:01 Ok, well honestly here's the thing. Imagine this... You are in the triplex, you are a lvl 25-30 teamed with 2 adepts. Your chances of going on to the next round? None. Your teammates are rounded by the other team made up of just lvl 25-30 crits. That leaves you... and only you...to defeat 3 people. The chances of that happening... slim to none. The Triplex is supposed to be the high lvls out flexin thier muscles. Why not, after the triplex, have moshes for the lower levels? say a 1-11 and then an 12-23? |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Mephistroth on 09/07/03 at 12:36:49 on 09/07/03 at 12:13:01, Sera wrote:
I've done it once ;D I had an arch fighter (Lyetor) and I took out three level 25+ thieves. It lucky really, they weren't working as a team, just hitting randomly.. and as soon as I dropped one, I got a lot of pots to restock myself. |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Oracle on 09/07/03 at 13:11:08 Well I always thought in a sense that the triplex was a combination of luck and your skill as a player (getting to level 30 if simply that). Sometimes you'll be lucky with 2 level 20s on the other team and sometimes them being on your team will make you unlucky. If it really is the common view that it shouldn't have this element of luck then I'll permanently remove it but last time this was brought up, the opinion was about 50:50 so I just left it. |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Demonic on 09/07/03 at 14:32:29 In my opinion a level 27+ rule is a very good idea... since level 27 gives you sgs and that is like the best thing for every class (but zerkers) and even clerics can use Divine Restoration yet, zerker got 6 stam and all that. I am sure you should make triplex a tournament for level 27+ crits only. It will prevent ppl from joining with low levels to 'destroy' a nice team in the first round. You can always get a party of 3 level 27's against 3 level 30's so it is still luck... but you don't know you'll die when you see your parings. Normally I can say who wins in first round of triplex when I see the parrings. Mainly there is an adept or any level 24 crits who juts became expert and run around with a pike. I think the best should win and not the one with the most luck. Many good player die in first round coz they were teamed with an adept or journeyman. it is like 2 vs 3 then and that looks really senseless to me. It would be nice if John or Wes could change anything at this Triplex which runs every week now. And btw. I also liked the idea of paging a random crit to prevent ppl from pressing macros and joining every week. Staff can just make a level 1 with another name every week, wait untill the first 24 ppl paged it and delete it then. Doesn't that have more sense? lol - Simon |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Maltakano on 09/07/03 at 15:13:29 dont enter the triplex myself so this doesnt realy concern me but i have to agree with dmeonic here the paging system sounds like quite a nice idea |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Despair on 09/07/03 at 15:47:24 Possibly make it so you cant enter unless your crit has it's class's max stamina . . . ie Berserker 27 Mage 29 Fighter 28 etc. |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Lady_Maha on 09/07/03 at 16:45:41 I think lvl 27 to 30 is a good enough range for the triplex. Create similar events for lower levels, so they have something that they can win as well, even if it's just a little badge that has no modifying effects, to wear for honor. The way I would divide them (and name them) would be: lvl 27 to 30: Triplex lvl 21 to 26: Junior Triplex lvl 15 to 20: Freshmen Triplex lvl 1 to 14: Nooblex |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by DannysGirl on 09/07/03 at 17:01:54 on 09/07/03 at 10:38:27, Eternyte wrote:
you know what, cant say i kept the emerald dagger one, buuuuut Disjunction succumbed to Darris's expert skill with her Halberd! You killed Tadpole cant say i really kept any of the others, just kept those one's because they were talking crap, sorry. Tadpole was with a level 25, and disjunction was with level 26 |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Oracle on 09/07/03 at 17:40:27 OK, I'll do the random alt thing if someone reminds me when I do the 5-minute warning message heh and I'm not doing more than one triplex a week atm. With school, Saturday night is the only night I can really get on at that time for several hours but if it gets partially automated in the future it's a possibility. 27+ I'll consider for now or maybe rotate between that and not that every week, not sure. |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Roc on 09/07/03 at 18:38:19 Thank you Oracle for addressing the issue. Every other week is better then nothing. I understand your situation with time and not being able to run the other events suggested. Is it time we hired more staff? This is a legit question seeing as Aidon hasn`t logged in since 8/31/2003 and Havanor still has issues with his computer. |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by deadman on 09/08/03 at 01:50:13 Im all for the lvl limit of 27+.I was the first one to suggest this on the forum and it was only tested once then never kept i think it would be a good addition and yea just have a mosh for the 1-26. |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by DannysGirl on 09/09/03 at 06:49:47 on 09/08/03 at 01:50:13, deadman wrote:
moshes arent skill at all, its whoever is able to join the biggest party |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Deval on 09/09/03 at 07:50:12 There is a tiny bit of skill, which consists of getting that last single totally retarded idiot in the party to /nopk /afk and who to macro, whilst he sits there saying 'Can I have some pots?' or 'Heel and Champ plz'. |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by DannysGirl on 09/09/03 at 17:53:19 on 09/09/03 at 07:50:12, Deval wrote:
lol, thats pretty true. but like yesterday, me and someone else were in a party, and outlasted around 30 people, and killed 4 ourselves, but we got hacked just on the basis it was us 2 against 8 person party. moshes have no skill what-so-ever, and even though i have crits between 27 and 30, doesn't mean that certain people should be excluded and thrown into a crappy mosh. |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Aidon on 09/10/03 at 07:30:52 on 09/07/03 at 18:38:19, Roc wrote:
Dont get ur panties in a knot I'm finally back at school ;) |
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Title: Re: Triplex Post by Deval on 09/10/03 at 07:58:22 mmmmmmm panties... mmmmmmmmm... |
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