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Title: Archmasters Post by Defiant on 04/08/03 at 19:55:19 I made this topic a VERY long time ago, LOTS of people agreed with me too, Seeing Archmaster Druid/mage/fighter ect...is boring, We need the old things back like Male Human Spirit, Or as that might not tell level for other people that arent so clever Male Human Expert Druid then change at 30 to Male Human Archmaster Spirit?? |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Pile on 04/08/03 at 20:04:48 Yup, I’m all for that. Leave the archmaster spirit bit though, sort of takes the edge of it. I highly rated the old naming system where by you acquired another title upon reaching level 30, a nice little bonus! |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by newb on 04/08/03 at 20:06:46 Why exactly is this cooler or better than seeing Male Archmaster Fighter? As far as I can see, it just replaces the class with the word "Spirit". |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Pile on 04/08/03 at 20:11:22 Because personally I don’t think the title archmaster is particularly inspiring. Also, the alternate titles make level 30 stand out as more of an achievement and are class specific for that little bit of extra variety. |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Defiant on 04/08/03 at 20:15:54 not sure if you understood me it would be male Human expert fighter/mage/cleric when you reach 24, all the stuff like initiate, Novice, Adept etc would stay in, but you add, for example Spirit - Druid level 30 So it would say Male Human Archmaster Spirit Warrior - Fighter level 30 Male Human Archmaster Warrior Knight - Male Human Archmaster Knight level 30 pally Barbarian Level 30 Zerk Get my point? |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Pile on 04/08/03 at 20:20:42 I thought you were saying go back to spirit, thug etc. but then for thickies use archmaster sprit etc. I was saying I thought it was better as just spirit…but that’s just me. |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by wonderful_nightmare on 04/08/03 at 20:31:58 well yeah i remember this and it's cool and allmost everybody agreed with it but did jlh ever said if it was gonna be in or not? |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by medication on 04/08/03 at 22:29:13 If you're gonna make new title for archmaster, which is good idea, why not drop the archmaster part ? So a mage gets to level 30, and can get a title of, in example, sorcerer, to become a Gnome Sorcerer (or Sorceress if female) or wizard -> Gnome Male Wizard in that case. Put a little thought behind it and we might get 2 or 3 different titles for one class to choose from; it's only letters anyway. A lv 30 Fighter could become Warrior, and so on. |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Stotic on 04/08/03 at 23:03:13 on 04/08/03 at 20:15:54, Defiant wrote:
Pallies were Sovereigns, Knights were Lords. :P |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Matt on 04/09/03 at 05:11:35 I would love to see it changed back.. I agree, the current system is a bit bland and boring at times. The way it was would bring SPICE! ::) lol |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by wonderful_nightmare on 04/09/03 at 08:43:59 btw if it's changed back plz change the thief one :d i hated thug :D should be something like godfather intead of thug :D |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Defiant on 04/09/03 at 18:16:50 on 04/08/03 at 23:03:13, Stotic wrote:
I Know, But Knights fits better, as Sovereigns sucks. |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Defiant on 04/09/03 at 18:17:32 on 04/08/03 at 22:29:13, medication wrote:
Keep the Archmaster part so you can see what level difference there is, like initiate you know is low level. |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Pile on 04/09/03 at 18:26:24 But the only difference to now would be you wouldn’t able to differentiate level 29(i.e. still expert druid etc 24-29 then spirit at level 30), no big loss there if you ask me, not when we get some funky names ;). |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by wonderful_nightmare on 04/09/03 at 20:52:15 on 04/09/03 at 18:26:24, Pile wrote:
yeah same as what i thought. if the title just changes at lvl 30 you still know that person is a lvl 30 even if it doesn't say archmaster :D |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Eternyte on 04/09/03 at 21:32:01 Totally agree, also posted numerous ideas on crit name ages ago. |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by wonderful_nightmare on 04/10/03 at 09:07:06 yeah that brings me back to one of my previous questions. did jlh ever reply to it? cuz it seems like all players like it. this idea is just missing one of jlh's post that sais "noted" :D |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Tender_Foot on 04/11/03 at 07:23:01 i think when you hit level 30, you could pick what you were. Mage: you could be Wizard, Sorcerer, Conjurer Fighter: Knight, Warrior, General Cleric: Medic, Priest........ It would be nice if you could actually choose what you were, otherwise it would be just like it is now, a bunch of the same bland archy's (i also think archmaster should be dropped) |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Melfice on 04/20/03 at 16:22:14 What if the whole thing was changed so rather than just the archies gettin male spirit or what ever each of the stages could be a different name. Like fighter could be intiate=adventurer, naming all the others novice, adept etc names as well as achmaster. :D |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by AlecxZeck-P1C on 04/20/03 at 17:26:05 I think Melfice has a good idea, and it's all up to JLH and him wanting to script up new Classes for Fighters, Rangers, Mages, Clerics (ect). But, if we change it now, people will want to change it later on. SO, here we are.... Edit: Actually, scripting has nothing to do with it, it's the switching of names in the slots. |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Tender_Foot on 04/21/03 at 14:03:03 on 04/20/03 at 16:22:14, Melfice wrote:
what would replacing one permenant name with another, do anything? *if i understand this correctly* all novices would be adventurers? wouldn't that defeat the whole purpose? |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Melfice on 04/21/03 at 23:21:56 I just thought it would make a nice change and look better if the names were changed. All novice fighters would be adventrues, novice mages might be conjurers, novice rangers might be travelleres, novice clerics might be healer etc. Then each class would have it's own individual names for each of it's stages in leveling. It's just an idea to add some more unique things for classes etc. :D |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Tender_Foot on 04/23/03 at 08:32:15 but the thing is, is that it wouldnt be unique. it would be the same as it is now. you look blah and blah over blah and blah is a adventurer you look over hoodie who hoodie who is an adventurer its exactly the same as it is now, atleast with my idea there would be diversity. >.< |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Hybrid on 04/23/03 at 10:03:39 Yeah but your idea sucks; it should be how it was before. |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Melfice on 04/23/03 at 14:18:38 How will it be exactly the same as it is now? Instead of every lvl 30 being archmaster they will be something different for each class |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Oblivion on 04/23/03 at 18:15:38 the lower lv system is fine.. But for lvl 30s, I say take off archmaster and for each class have 1-5 different names you can pick from.. Give your crits little bit of a difference from a lot of others. |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Tender_Foot on 04/23/03 at 23:51:14 you mean oblivon...exactly what i suggested...hmmmm |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by dognapot on 04/24/03 at 06:55:00 i've given this list of level/class based titles like a gajillion times now so for the sake of repetition i'll list them again but since it's fallen on deaf ears for a year now i doubt anything of any sort will be done to change the current system since it works fine. fighter: rookie, private, soldier, mercenary, veteran, swordsman, hero, swashbuckler, myrmidon, champion, lord mage: trickster, cabalist, visionist, phantasmist, spellbinder, illusionist, evoker, conjurer, theurgist, warlock, sorcerer, wizard cleric: acolyte, priest, curate, canon, lama, (m)patriarch, high priest, thief: vagabond, footpad, catpurse, robber, filcher, sharper, magsman, rogue, thief, executioner, assassin ranger: runner, strider, scout, courser, tracker, guide, pathfinder, ranger paladin: gallant, keeper, protector, defender, warder, guardian,chevalier, jusiticiar, paladin the list goes from low lvl to high lvl for each class. kthxbye. |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Eternyte on 04/24/03 at 17:52:45 Hate to pick hole Ted but you need to include female alternatives. I wish I could find the last post I did on the subject when I posted my views. |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by dognapot on 04/24/03 at 19:09:07 there's a few of 'em that could use some sexin' up but most of them aside from patriarch (alternative would be matriarch), will work on a female just as well i think. maybe you can dig up your old post and i can get a better clue as to what your thinking of. |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Android 20 on 04/24/03 at 19:25:40 And a female ranger could be Amazon.. ;D I also really like your ideas Dognapot. |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Tender_Foot on 04/24/03 at 20:00:23 on 04/08/03 at 19:55:19, Defiant wrote:
on 04/24/03 at 06:55:00, dognapot wrote:
so what defiant said, was he's tired of seeing the class and arachmaster. he said change it to Male human spirit.... what a couple of you want, is to just raname the levels. which would be axactly the same as it is now. yes there would be a little variety...but every fighter would be the same, every mage would be the same...people would just come back in a couple months saying, i dont wanna be the same as this other fighter, my fighter is cooler, blah blah blah, and would just suggest defiants/oblivians/my idea and take complete credit, and you people suggesting what you are now, would completely agree with them.....yeah, we need to be able to pick what our fighter would be for more variety, i say skip it, and go right to our idea... |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by dognapot on 04/24/03 at 20:31:28 dude, your idea is multiple choice, you'd still wind up having the same title as someone else and then someone will say "i dont wanna be the same as this other fighter, my fighter is cooler" i think perhaps there will always be people saying that. that is probably the reason it's staying the way it is now, because for the most part it is futile to change the names without escaping the system that people are so bored with and since the system is categorization none of this will change the people who aren't cool with being grouped or having similar titles. i'd say just skip it all or use classic, established class specific titles. either way it will end up the same. |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Tender_Foot on 04/24/03 at 21:04:33 lets look into the furture then your idea...... 1000 fighters are lords.. my idea........ 200 people are warriors there wouldnt be as many standard crits |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by dognapot on 04/24/03 at 21:14:37 yes but warriors and whatever else fighters have to choose from are still fighters. so in actuality every crit is just as standard as any other. your ignoring the actual cause of people making these suggestions, which is people feel that the current level titles are too broad, so all that has to be done is to make them more specific. people will always have problems with not being able to be "the hamburgler" at lvl 30 but that's just too bad, if you level a fighter it's still a fighter. |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Clu on 05/16/03 at 16:37:17 Well this is a good idea. But would JLH be up to it ??? |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Epic on 05/16/03 at 17:04:25 Weird i see this topic today, while enjoying a nice smoke joppa and i were discussing how we like the old thing better...arch mage=warlock and what not and how we'd like to see that other then Master and Archmaster |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Owen on 05/22/03 at 02:15:10 ok, if you really think down the line, this idea will never happen. For it to be truly unique and not have anyone complain about "my fighter is better bla blah blah what ever" you would end up havin to have them pick their own title and god knows that would never happen. The reason the system is the way it is is so people can tell (within a few lvls) what lvl other people are. Changing it would just make this purpose harder. |
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Title: Re: Archmasters Post by Jono on 05/26/03 at 05:11:06 wuts the point of it...not many people really care wut they see... Whether its Male Human Archmaster or Male Human Archmaster Spirit or wut-ever... it doesnt matter |
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