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(Message started by: Momba on 01/12/04 at 02:03:37)

Title: Lag
Post by Momba on 01/12/04 at 02:03:37
Any chance we might see this fixed sometime soon? I mean this is sad. you can`t even move around with 1 crit anymore. takes 5 minutes to get from Arilin to NM.

I know know what your gonna say Simon, "send money"
How about charge me. P2P already. Don't just talk about it be about it. Cause if I donated like so many others have and had to deal with this lag I would be pissed.

Title: Re: Lag
Post by Mission on 01/12/04 at 02:13:58
jlh said he's currently running on 1 cable line because line 2 broke down because it was old. (he previously replaced cable 1). i believe it's supposed to be in sometime around friday or so?

Title: Re: Lag
Post by Limit on 01/12/04 at 08:47:57
is that this friday or a month from now? lol

Title: Re: Lag
Post by Raylen on 01/12/04 at 13:27:43
/t momba lol except you were still able to click my poor lil adept pally in the royal forest while he was lookin after my noobie crits  ::)

By the way, any advice on how to train when you have a ping of 77 seconds...lol

Title: Re: Lag
Post by JLH on 01/12/04 at 14:41:44
the replacement cable modem is arriving today between 4pm and 8pm

Title: Re: Lag
Post by Nocturnal on 01/12/04 at 14:47:01
So will there be downtime so it can be installed?

Title: Re: Lag
Post by JLH on 01/12/04 at 15:09:58
none required, it just plugs into the other wan port on the router, the router sees that it is alive, and gets another ip from ntl, i update the dns server to load balance new connections to the other line and it starts to be used :)

Title: Re: Lag
Post by JLH on 01/12/04 at 15:57:00
the cable modem is in, and the dns server has been updated so it is now in use

Title: Re: Lag
Post by Pandilex on 01/12/04 at 19:06:58
You're complaining because of a bit of lag for a day or so?!

Technical problems do happen, just sit tight and we'll get it fixed as soon as possible.

Title: Re: Lag
Post by Lavalamp And Seito on 01/13/04 at 03:49:52
/nod Simon... if you dont like lag, dont play? sounds simple enough to me. ::) btw, if you want less lag(Jurian ;p) then donate so JLH can get another cable modem :) 3MBits/s split over 3 lines MUST be enough to stop you naggers :S

Title: Re: Lag
Post by ElDiAbLo on 01/13/04 at 05:37:45

on 01/13/04 at 03:49:52, Lavalamp And Seito wrote:
/nod Simon... if you dont like lag, dont play?


That could be the worst quote I've ever heard.  ::) Momba wasn't "Nagging" he was simply curious, I believe there is a difference.  ;)

Title: Re: Lag
Post by Lavalamp And Seito on 01/13/04 at 06:00:29
worst quote you ever heard? lol well i play with 400ms ping on a good day on 1 crit, so i dont really care/even notice lag.. yet you ppl with like 70 pregnant dog and moan about lag... lol "man my ping is so high, look its over 100".. heh you lucky nuts ;p

anyway sorry if it was "so bad" for you, i didnt mean any offense to anyone :)

Title: Re: Lag
Post by Oracle on 01/13/04 at 09:03:33
Server lag should be very infrequent when both of the lines are in full operation. Until the game has expanded further, the 3rd line will rarely make a difference, as I understand it.

Title: Re: Lag
Post by Pandilex on 01/13/04 at 14:34:57

on 01/13/04 at 05:37:45, ElDiAbLo wrote:
That could be the worst quote I've ever heard.  ::) Momba wasn't "Nagging" he was simply curious, I believe there is a difference.  ;)


His attitude makes it sound like people who donate get some sort of special priveledge... you're donating out of generosity not because you're getting something in return!

Title: Re: Lag
Post by Mephistroth on 01/13/04 at 14:38:37

on 01/13/04 at 05:37:45, ElDiAbLo wrote:
That could be the worst quote I've ever heard.  ::) Momba wasn't "Nagging" he was simply curious, I believe there is a difference.  ;)


If he was curious he wouldn't have used that language, it would have been phrased in a much nicer way.

Title: Re: Lag
Post by Tanis on 01/13/04 at 18:37:23
We're American, Attitude to British people is just merely normal talking to us Americans.
And I think what he was trying to say is that P2P would make it easier for JLH to just be able to run out and get a new modem, instead of having to find the funds. I refuse to donate because with the attitude Simons giving off, what point is there? We try and ask questions and get nothing but bitterness.

And truthfully, I'll sit and wait for your nice little witty comment Pandi, because I know it's going to come. Or maybe you'll just take all your ideas and what not from the game, that'll be a sure fire way to get me good.

And yeah, this is attitude because why respond to attitude with a nice polite comment, when I could just merely be an ass and get the point across more clearly.

Cheers JLH for fixing the problem.

Title: Re: Lag
Post by Deathwish on 01/13/04 at 18:54:30
It's not always a question of funding... The suppliers have to have stock to supply you and they don't work over weekends or most of them don't. And so comes the delay...

Title: Re: Lag
Post by Pandilex on 01/13/04 at 20:20:26

on 01/13/04 at 18:37:23, Tanis wrote:
We're American, Attitude to British people is just merely normal talking to us Americans.
And I think what he was trying to say is that P2P would make it easier for JLH to just be able to run out and get a new modem, instead of having to find the funds. I refuse to donate because with the attitude Simons giving off, what point is there? We try and ask questions and get nothing but bitterness.


heh, JLH pays so much for this and you're still not happy. You don't do crap to help support the game, yet you complain about anything you can find. I just want people to be a little more grateful for what they have, and don't assume its their gods given right to have the server fixed at their whim, or for JLH to go spend more money to help lag, etc etc. Of course he does these things because he's such a nice guy - he could just pull the plug and tell you to sod off, which I think a lot of you ungrateful players deserve. I just want a simple balance, we put time and money in to let you play the game, and you be nice to us in return and don't complain because you're experiencing lag for the whole of 1 day. Or complain about our attitude, the fact we don't kneel before your every desire.

I try not to complain about ungrateful players, but its people like yourself that have no respect for what we, and moreso JLH as it costs him money, do. The game is ours, not yours, and using it is a privelidge not a right. Remember that and try to be a bit more friendly.

Title: Re: Lag
Post by Tanis on 01/13/04 at 21:45:31
Right again, Simon. Another hasty comment, righteo chap. Good job. Again, you miss the point. I was complaining about YOU not JLH. I know JLH does a hell of a lot for this game, and I know you do a lot of the coding. But besides that, you're stuck up. I don't care to give respect to you, because I don't like you. I'm sure you don't care, and I don't either, you're just another person on a massive internet power-trip. Truthfully, yes, I am ungreatful. I've gone many times on Nightmist complaining to JLH for my stupid mistakes. Yet, he takes the time to point out my fault, instead of calling me stupid, or ungreatful.

How can I be ungreatful for this lag thing, when I wasn't even commenting on it. I couldn't give two craps from a fly if the game lags or not. I don't play effectively, or even log on enough to care. Shut down the game? Boo hoo, son. I'm hurt, watch out now. Shutting down a game I only log on to talk to friends over, boo hoo now.

I thanked him for fixing the problem, although I didn't care left or right if it was done or not. JLH does put a lot of money into this, and if he said "sod off" to us, I wouldn't blame him either, but I also, don't give a rats ass.

And I'm not going to let your attitude slide, like you think you should. It isn't your god given right to be an arrogant 'tard to me. I'm merely stating facts, and you're merely stating opinions. You're always in a pissy mood, no matter what happens, if you're right or wrong, or if we try and help or not. I have no respect for you because you have none for me, I've tried to help, and I get your egotistical remarks about how my ideas are so inferior.

Here's my tip of the day. Don't care what you say Simon, because you're still going to come back with another witty non-topic related comment. Maybe you should, instead of rebutting, delete or lock the thread like you expect other moderators to do. Instead of word-fight back. Good way to set examples.

You can ban me from this, and from the game, and see if I care, because I don't, you're so cool because you can set limits on what I do online. The Nightmist law.. what a role model.

Bite me.

Title: Re: Lag
Post by JLH on 01/13/04 at 22:10:54
tanis, where has pandilex been arrogant to you? i fail to see that in his posts. you said

Quote:
I refuse to donate because with the attitude Simons giving off, what point is there?

why?

Title: Re: Lag
Post by Sausage on 01/13/04 at 22:28:19
Thanks for the fix JLH. I'd thank Pandilex any day of the week for all of his work put into this game. But he can be arrogant at times.

Just for the record; Thanks for your work Pandilex.

Title: Re: Lag
Post by Insomnia on 01/13/04 at 23:18:13

on 01/13/04 at 22:10:54, JLH wrote:
tanis, where has pandilex been arrogant to you? i fail to see that in his posts.

After 7 hours of studying I'm not in the mood to search the forum for an example, but it's true - Simon has a really arrogant attitude sometimes (pretty often, in fact). Maybe he (and you, I suppose) doesn't notice when he acts in a disrespectful way, but I know for sure that I'm far from the only player who feels like this.

Also, I'm very grateful for all the money and time you spend on this game, and if I had better a little bit better.. economy.. I can almost guarantee that I would have donated when I actually played this game (can't say I do nowadays). But instead of donating, I used to spend alot of time contributing in another way (that, after all, I think was a pretty important way too).

I doubt that neither you or Pandilex remembers what this is all about, but I never even got a simple "thank you" for what I did. In fact, you didn't just ignore me - you treated me with so much disrespect that it's sad...

I guess I could end this post with a small question, no need to answer it if you don't want to.

Why should I be grateful to you (epsecially pandilex, who doesn't put any money into this) for using your spare time to "make the players happy", yet while I use my spare time to do the same (in a game that ain't even 'mine') you seem to be more ungrateful than ever, and even treat me as s**t?

Title: Re: Lag
Post by JLH on 01/13/04 at 23:35:35

Quote:
I doubt that neither you or Pandilex remembers what this is all about, but I never even got a simple "thank you" for what I did. In fact, you didn't just ignore me - you treated me with so much disrespect that it's sad...

Quote:
while I use my spare time to do the same (in a game that ain't even 'mine') you seem to be more ungrateful than ever, and even treat me as s**t?

I do not remember what this is about, so i can't comment.

Title: Re: Lag
Post by Tanis on 01/14/04 at 03:29:11
In game and in page mostly, John. I've been having problems with him for a while. His posts normally are sarcastic, and imply a somewhat "holier than thou" type of tone.

An his last post was arrogant, and childish too. Saying I haven't done crap for this game, when the last time I checked, he wasn't wiping my crack and monitoring everything I've done for the past 2 years.

And yes, this comment is wrong, and will be for a while. But, from a player point of view. As far as I see it (player point of view now) Simon does, jack. Notta. Zip. That we see, atleast. A class every blue moon, but nothing else we can see. And Pacifists aren't even really that great.. they're actually a far superior class that seriously is in need of some counter parts.

When is Simon gunna start using the Announcement board and tell us when he'll be updating the game? I only see you doing anything other than turning on double exp and shooting down ideas.

Edit: lovin' that forum filter

Title: Re: Lag
Post by JLH on 01/14/04 at 04:01:31
i do all the game update posting in announce since i run the actual update on my server after discussing ideas with pandilex, he does a lot more than you know about.

Title: Re: Lag
Post by AfterMath on 01/14/04 at 16:01:17
YAY LESS LAG!!!


on 01/13/04 at 14:34:57, Pandilex wrote:
His attitude makes it sound like people who donate get some sort of special priveledge... you're donating out of generosity not because you're getting something in return!



the third line is made specially for people who donate  ::) ::)

**runs to go grab his wallet and checkbook**


I think simon should make a post about all he does, so that these newbs can finally shut up, there is alot of things that people dont see because we are just players. If we were meant to see them, then we would be allowed to explore unfinished area's/go on new class's that arnt finished.

Title: Re: Lag
Post by Tienno on 01/14/04 at 17:24:29
Guys dont bite the hand the feeds. I personally like playing this game and apart from a couple of occassions in my long distant past ive never upset a staffer and called them ......... weel it seems you are basically calling them lazy!

Simon isnt lazy, the inital idea of nightmist way back in the day was co wrote by simon and JLH, simon used to work his socks off so much i remember in making the game so leave them alone.

I used to be staff and it aint an easy job



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