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(Message started by: Suzey on 10/21/03 at 04:06:04)
Title: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Suzey on 10/21/03 at 04:06:04
I'm pretty sure a few of you are already thinking,oh man what's she going to rant about? Stoopid No000b!!!

Yeah well,I dont like you that much either,anyways...A lot of people have been getting their accounts and crits stolen; some from account sharing or just from a plan old hacker. Staff repeatedly states that they can't do anything,when everyone knows that they can..they just won't, why? People who work their arses off constantly training crits and what not, decide to share that hard worked self glory with their old buddy Steve! from 2nd grade who broke his arm falling off the swing! When just so happens old Steve is all grown up now and has repeatedly stolen accounts throughout the game and hasn't been caught yet.  

Staff,being repeatedly reminded of this same situation hasn't attempted to find this jerk.  How are individuals allowed to enjoy what they work for if it's being stolen from them?  Or share something with a best  friend or someone they can trust?  And you can't repeatedly tell us that oh we shouldn't share accounts, or we should be more careful, or any of that other BS,because thats exactly what it is,BS!

I'm sure as soon as this type of thing happens to you,it's dealt with,or you're saying it won't happen to you,which exactly isn't true...anyone,anywhere can be stolen from in different ways.  So my point is,when is staff going to start caring about the players instead of their authority?

I'm sure for this post,I'm going to get some textual slandering from many...well,thats the result of stating an opinion, you have your negitive and positive replies.  I just want to tell the truth from what I've seen and experienced.  Hopefully I wont get any ignorant replies...or some form of harrasment.  So if you basically don't like what I've said or dont care,then don't bother paging me with your insults or other petty crap.

K. THNX. BYE. ;D
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Ril<l<u on 10/21/03 at 04:15:28
well said

I didn't think anyone would even take the time to bother stealing from my account, and someone did.  I was lucky enough that Jen helped me with that =)  My irl friend had her account stolen, and I was told theres nothing we can do.  All her equips, were sold. Ive seen alot of crits get stolen and how many of them get their crits back?  Not many.  Basically, ur telling people, its okay to steal, because they wont get in trouble for it anyhow!  and I know I, like everyone else have worked my arse off for what I have, and I wouldnt want to be one of the people that get their crap stolen just because, some thief thinks it will be fun, why not sell their whole account while ur at it!

Thats my 2 sense anyways *if that*
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Aidon on 10/21/03 at 04:19:09
Obviously Steve is a wicked, horrid person who shouldn't have been trusted.  The point is with staff not helping is that we dont support sharing, which means quite simply, DONT DO IT.  I can guarentee that if you dont share that you won't have your crits stolen by people!!!
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Deval on 10/21/03 at 04:29:48

on 10/21/03 at 04:19:09, Aidon wrote:
 The point is with staff not helping is that we dont support sharing, which means quite simply, DONT DO IT.  I can guarentee that if you dont share that you won't have your crits stolen by people!!!


Precisely. For a long long long time I never shared my account, and the one time I did get robbed (we never established how), staff were more than willing to step in, and return Deval and Protac to me, the crits were also frozen until what had happened was established. All you have to do is listen to what they say. As for the ignorant remarks, if you can't follow simple guidlines, I'd say someones suffering from a severe case of hipocracy.
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Aidon on 10/21/03 at 04:38:13
Its the simple fact that it takes to much time to solve, and if staff had to spend all their time dealing with thefts that COULD be prevented, then nothing would get done.
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by sarah_rain on 10/21/03 at 05:03:58
and i guess the response for those who dont share and ahve their stuf stole is oh well......but hey just 2 cents
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Drake_Lord on 10/21/03 at 05:46:59
Yeah, there are lots of ways to get crits without sharing or knowing someones info. Keyloggers are the most common these days. I believe that staff should help people out who get thier crits/stuff stolen if they dont share. I also think there should be a special password or something on the character itself, so even if you DID share, you couldnt move it without entering the crit pass and the acct pass. Just an idea.  ;)
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Suzey on 10/21/03 at 06:05:47
Why not get more staff? Sometimes it's like staff doesn't even exist most of the time. Wouldn't it be easier on pretty much all of us if there was more staff and get some type of theft monitoring and what about Drake Lord's idea,it sounded pretty good. Can't there be some type of control for the original person who made the account and like a contract they can have with a person that they share an account with that permits them to certian limits that staff can keep in some type of records
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Crazy_Dan on 10/21/03 at 06:12:06

on 10/21/03 at 05:46:59, Drake_Lord wrote:
Yeah, there are lots of ways to get crits without sharing or knowing someones info. Keyloggers are the most common these days. I believe that staff should help people out who get thier crits/stuff stolen if they dont share. I also think there should be a special password or something on the character itself, so even if you DID share, you couldnt move it without entering the crit pass and the acct pass. Just an idea.  ;)


Like he sayed ppl's accts being riped off and not ever shareing ther are lots of ways to do it .and its been done to me (thats y i have lots of accts not) but ther are things staff can do about it its just nothing has been done yet and like ne1 will say when thay get riped off it (think about it what if sum1 get in to your acct and yes even yall staff) youll want the outher staff to do sumthing about it am i rite?

thats just what i think
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Drake_Lord on 10/21/03 at 06:18:34
I dont think the situation would be as bad if current staff would contribute to the game instead of yelling "man oh man am I bored". If your bored, give up your position to someone who cares about the advancement and betterment of the game. I even myself put in for a staff position where players would control bosses and roleplay and walk around, to have interactive bosses. But I guess im not important enough to become staff since i'm not in TR. Since you have to be friends with someone to become staff now a days.
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Abra on 10/21/03 at 06:18:55
LoL , my was terrible story some Freak stole my 15.4 mil
AOLP , ARCH PALLY , 1 SG , MY MAIN ALT and More i just forgot STAFF DID NOTHING ABOUT IT!!!!!

AND IT REALLY SUCKS

I Hope He Goes to Hell and Someone STICK A NEEDLE ON HIS EYE

*Go To Hell Stick a needle in your EYE DARN HACKER*

i Hope He dies in a terrible dead  :o

LoL
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Sera on 10/21/03 at 06:19:37

on 10/21/03 at 05:46:59, Drake_Lord wrote:
Yeah, there are lots of ways to get crits without sharing or knowing someones info. Keyloggers are the most common these days. I believe that staff should help people out who get thier crits/stuff stolen if they dont share. I also think there should be a special password or something on the character itself, so even if you DID share, you couldnt move it without entering the crit pass and the acct pass. Just an idea.  ;)



Why should staff have to deal with the fact that a player has something on THEIR computer which allows people to access their account. Staff are not the ones who put it there. Maybe people should be a little bit more careful as to files they accept and pages they go to. It's amazing what clicking a link can do to your computer. I totally understand that it's not Staffs problem, and they should not be held responsible for the stupidity of others.
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Drake_Lord on 10/21/03 at 06:22:06
But its staff's job to make the game safe and fun to others. If staff cant prevent keyloggers, make it to where you somehow use your mouse to log in. Keyloggers cant track that.  8)
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Vex on 10/21/03 at 06:23:31
Well as one of those people who just seem to be a nice guy and want to help someone out by allowing them to share an acct with me and after its all said and done im walking around with abosolutley nothing. Yes i admit i shared an acct but the fact that staff wont do anything to help me out is straight up ****ing retarded. When you turn to staff for help after an acct is stolen id say at least 8 out of 10 times your turned away with them telling you "DO NOT SHARE". In fact heres a quote from one of our lovely staff members Stotic:I technically don't deal with theft, but theft won't get no where when it is sharing because Pandilex and JLH solve the problems, make the rules, etc. so another words staff wont do a d**n thing about it if you share an acct?hmm
kinda makes a person wanna get into stealing accts since its so easy to get away with it and im liked by many, but theres only 1 problem i have morals and i stand by them. Well thats about all i have to say
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Sera on 10/21/03 at 06:24:30

on 10/21/03 at 06:18:34, Drake_Lord wrote:
But I guess im not important enough to become staff since i'm not in TR. Since you have to be friends with someone to become staff now a days.


This is getting REALLY old. We have 3 staff in TR. Zephie,Stotic and Aidon. You do NOT have to be in TR to be staff and those people who keep saying that are making themselves look stupid.

JLH - no clan
Pandilex - no clan (but does have alts in Broken)
Havanor - Order of Ecstasy
Oracle - Broken
Medora - Hell
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Crazy_Dan on 10/21/03 at 06:25:18

on 10/21/03 at 06:18:34, Drake_Lord wrote:
I dont think the situation would be as bad if current staff would contribute to the game instead of yelling "man oh man am I bored". If your bored, give up your position to someone who cares about the advancement and betterment of the game. I even myself put in for a staff position where players would control bosses and roleplay and walk around, to have interactive bosses. But I guess im not important enough to become staff since i'm not in TR. Since you have to be friends with someone to become staff now a days.


as did i try to be a staff but like he say we must not be thatimportant enough sum of us play nm just about 24/7 and try to keep things rite and stop bad trads (b4 the new trad thing) i have seen over 20sum trads go bad and had the logs and you know y it went bad cuz ther was never ne staff on
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Drake_Lord on 10/21/03 at 06:27:27
Staff members who arent in a clan are very closely related to TR in some way or another as most of them are all friends. Dont give me that load of garbage. I have NEVER seen a staff member recruited from an unranked clan. Or one thats lower ranking. So HA!
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Drake_Lord on 10/21/03 at 06:28:45

on 10/21/03 at 06:25:18, Crazy_Dan wrote:
as did i try to be a staff but like he say we must not be thatimportant enough sum of us play nm just about 24/7 and try to keep things rite and stop bad trads (b4 the new trad thing) i have seen over 20sum trads go bad and had the logs and you know y it went bad cuz ther was never ne staff on


They were on, just cloaked.  ;)
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Crazy_Dan on 10/21/03 at 06:32:00

on 10/21/03 at 06:28:45, Drake_Lord wrote:
They were on, just cloaked.  ;)



i know cuz not long after that started a mosh
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Opiate on 10/21/03 at 06:35:06
1 word -  moron
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Sera on 10/21/03 at 06:35:43

on 10/21/03 at 06:27:27, Drake_Lord wrote:
Staff members who arent in a clan are very closely related to TR in some way or another as most of them are all friends.


Goddess forbid that staff be *gasp* friends. Doesn't matter the clan. This 'you can't be staff if yer not in TR' crap is old and it's a petty argument by those who have been overlooked as staff. I know many members of TR who haven't gotten staff positions when they applied. Why not just stop the whining?  

Oh and btw Crazy_Dan, I too have spent a lot of time helping with trades and such... does not mean I get to be staff.


Ok so I'm a TR memeber who's been known to help people... and I'm ALSO friends with staff... and I'm not staff... I guess that blows your theory out of the water Drake_Lord... good day to you.
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Drake_Lord on 10/21/03 at 06:36:43
::)  Ill belieive it when a clan like The Undertakers gets a staff.
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Omniscient on 10/21/03 at 06:37:48

on 10/21/03 at 06:19:37, Sera wrote:
Why should staff have to deal with the fact that a player has something on THEIR computer which allows people to access their account. Staff are not the ones who put it there. Maybe people should be a little bit more careful as to files they accept and pages they go to. It's amazing what clicking a link can do to your computer. I totally understand that it's not Staffs problem, and they should not be held responsible for the stupidity of others.


You're right, staff shouldn't be held responsible, but by openly saying they will not try to do anything to help these people, that's like inviting people to go ahead and try to steal, either by sharing with someone or by giving them a keylogger or something, because they know staff won't do anything about it.

Even if staff can't do anything, or they don't have the time to spare to handle EVERY situation, if they at least made it appear that they might do something if someone's account was stolen, that would make people less likely to try, as they would be afraid that they might possibly get caught and dealt with.
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Drake_Lord on 10/21/03 at 06:39:16

on 10/21/03 at 06:37:48, Omniscient wrote:
You're right, staff shouldn't be held responsible, but by openly saying they will not try to do anything to help these people, that's like inviting people to go ahead and try to steal, either by sharing with someone or by giving them a keylogger or something, because they know staff won't do anything about it.

Even if staff can't do anything, or they don't have the time to spare to handle EVERY situation, if they at least made it appear that they might do something if someone's account was stolen, that would make people less likely to try, as they would be afraid that they might possibly get caught and dealt with.



Amen! All im trying to say is, if staff wont do anything about it, appoint someone who will. Or give someone else a chance. Doesnt have to be me, just ANYONE who cares. *shrug*
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Shera on 10/21/03 at 06:42:21

on 10/21/03 at 06:36:43, Drake_Lord wrote:
::)  Ill belieive it when a clan like The Undertakers gets a staff.

I thought about writing out this big long reply to your accusations however I think it can simply be summed up by saying:  Cyric was DH.  So do the words glass house and stone mean anything to you?
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Drake_Lord on 10/21/03 at 06:43:38
But Cyric too was in a large clan.
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Crazy_Dan on 10/21/03 at 06:44:00
yo Sera you helped with trads huh ok that cool and all but how meney was in your clan or allyed? :-X
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Sera on 10/21/03 at 06:44:04

on 10/21/03 at 06:37:48, Omniscient wrote:
You're right, staff shouldn't be held responsible, but by openly saying they will not try to do anything to help these people, that's like inviting people to go ahead and try to steal, either by sharing with someone or by giving them a keylogger or something, because they know staff won't do anything about it.



No, that's staff saying that they will not be responsible for the actions that the player takes that has caused them to get a keylogger or whatever on their computer.
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Sera on 10/21/03 at 06:46:34

on 10/21/03 at 06:44:00, Crazy_Dan wrote:
yo Sera you helped with trads huh ok that cool and all but how meney was in your clan or allyed? :-X


At the time TR had no allies, nor do we need staff to trade inside our clan. I trust my clannies enough to not need staff to trade with them. I helped MANY people from MANY different clans. I would be out in the desert training and have people page me asking to help, and I would. The very first one I did was for Epic *when he was chairman of CdlC* and Astinus (In DA). I've only helped ONE clanny out to be quite honest. That was Sour when he traded Nore for his CSotW. I had 15 mil in items in my inventory (including the Cobalt).
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Drake_Lord on 10/21/03 at 06:47:05

on 10/21/03 at 06:44:04, Sera wrote:
No, that's staff saying that they will not be responsible for the actions that the player takes that has caused them to get a keylogger or whatever on their computer.


All you people who got a computer for christmas, and arent computer nerds, and dont know about all this keylogger stuff. QUIT NOW! Staff does not care about you because youre not computer savvy.
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Sera on 10/21/03 at 06:49:41

on 10/21/03 at 06:47:05, Drake_Lord wrote:
All you people who got a computer for christmas, and arent computer nerds, and dont know about all this keylogger stuff. QUIT NOW! Staff does not care about you because youre not computer savvy.


I got my computer for Christmas. I am not computer savvy. I'm just smart enough to be cautious where I go and to not accept files from people unless I trust them 100%. I regularly run a scan for spyware as well.
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Crazy_Dan on 10/21/03 at 06:50:03

on 10/21/03 at 06:44:04, Sera wrote:
No, that's staff saying that they will not be responsible for the actions that the player takes that has caused them to get a keylogger or whatever on their computer.


dont need a keylogger lots of ppl can get pass crackers all thay have to do is give sum1 a free crt get ther acct name and use it (but o well  ::) )
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Drake_Lord on 10/21/03 at 06:52:24

on 10/21/03 at 06:49:41, Sera wrote:
I got my computer for Christmas. I am not computer savvy. I'm just smart enough to be cautious where I go and to not accept files from people unless I trust them 100%. I regularly run a scan for spyware as well.


What about ppl who dont know? At least have a warning in the disclaimer, or log on or something giving sites to scan stuff. Hell, I didnt even know you could do that, and im doing it now.
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Omniscient on 10/21/03 at 06:55:45

on 10/21/03 at 06:44:04, Sera wrote:
No, that's staff saying that they will not be responsible for the actions that the player takes that has caused them to get a keylogger or whatever on their computer.


My main problem is not that staff isnt helping the people who are getting things stolen, my problem is that little if nothing is being done to the people that are doing the stealing. If they can't/won't get the crits back for the person thats one thing, but they should at least try to find out who did it and deal with them.
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Crazy_Dan on 10/21/03 at 06:58:47

on 10/21/03 at 06:52:24, Drake_Lord wrote:
What about ppl who dont know? At least have a warning in the disclaimer, or log on or something giving sites to scan stuff. Hell, I didnt even know you could do that, and im doing it now.



http://housecall.antivirus.com/housecall/start_frame.asp

is a good 1 to use to
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Sera on 10/21/03 at 06:59:36

on 10/21/03 at 06:52:24, Drake_Lord wrote:
What about ppl who dont know? At least have a warning in the disclaimer, or log on or something giving sites to scan stuff. Hell, I didnt even know you could do that, and im doing it now.



I have no problems with a disclaimer or giving ideas of places to get scanners and such... Ad-aware is your friend when it comes to spyware...


on 10/21/03 at 06:55:45, Omniscient wrote:
My main problem is not that staff isnt helping the people who are getting things stolen, my problem is that little if nothing is being done to the people that are doing the stealing. If they can't/won't get the crits back for the person thats one thing, but they should at least try to find out who did it and deal with them.


I agree that something sould be done to the thieves... but Staff has stated what they will/won't do. They have cracked down quite a bit recently.
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Drake_Lord on 10/21/03 at 07:03:41
The problem i'm seeing is staff have like 9000 things do to because they do such a wide vareity of stuff. Why not hire staff for SPECIFIC purposes??!
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Sera on 10/21/03 at 07:08:31

on 10/21/03 at 07:03:41, Drake_Lord wrote:
The problem i'm seeing is staff have like 9000 things do to because they do such a wide vareity of stuff. Why not hire staff for SPECIFIC purposes??!


Um, I do believe that JLH is not hiring any more staff. Deal with it.
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Stotic on 10/21/03 at 07:13:43

on 10/21/03 at 07:03:41, Drake_Lord wrote:
The problem i'm seeing is staff have like 9000 things do to because they do such a wide vareity of stuff. Why not hire staff for SPECIFIC purposes??!

Are you done campaigning?

The rules have existed for months.  The userbase is too large to correct irresponsible mistakes.  We are no longer a village, but a city.  We trust our users to secure themselves on their end because we are not their babysitters. ie: I give you your paycheck.  You cash it and lose it/get robbed.  Am I at fault?  Tis a cruel world.  Best learn how to survive in it!
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Deval on 10/21/03 at 07:19:01
I don't understand why this thread has continued, when it was made clear the situation in the 3rd or 4th post.


on 10/21/03 at 04:19:09, Aidon wrote:
we dont support sharing


I don't think it gets a whole lot more matter of fact than that.

Someone lock this thread.
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Drake_Lord on 10/21/03 at 07:30:49
Your right, all the good ideas in the world couldnt change the fact that no one is gonna get off thier lazy bums. Why fix things when you could just flood us with announcements that are pointless. I give.  ::)
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Shera on 10/21/03 at 07:42:57
You know I find it funny how staff gets flammed when they do crack down on thieves and flammed by people who do not think that they do enough about the thieves.  Geez ppl make up your minds already.  
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Drake_Lord on 10/21/03 at 07:47:55
* thinks hes made it quite clear how he feels about thieves.
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Prince_Damon on 10/21/03 at 08:15:34
I did't have the energy to read past where this post went off topic on the first page.. I did notice again the mention of key loggers, and figured I'd hop in with a quick solution to that part of the whole theft problem.

http://www.nightmist.co.uk/nmsite/autologin.html

And there it is.
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Sera on 10/21/03 at 09:39:42
Thing about autologin... people can hack into your computer.. and view your password... *shrugs*
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Crazy_Dan on 10/21/03 at 09:43:48

on 10/21/03 at 08:15:34, Prince_Damon wrote:
I did't have the energy to read past where this post went off topic on the first page.. I did notice again the mention of key loggers, and figured I'd hop in with a quick solution to that part of the whole theft problem.

http://www.nightmist.co.uk/nmsite/autologin.html

And there it is.



2 things about that it dont stop pass crackers and what about ppl that have 2 or 3 accts  ???
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Pandilex on 10/21/03 at 11:10:46
It used to be individual crit passwords, then we made accounts with a TEN digit minimum sized password with numbers, because players were being retarded and having stupid passwords and also giving them out. This reduced theft considerably, but did not eliminate it.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GETTING 'HACKED'

You don't just wake up one day and find your crits gone. The reason they're gone is because:

  • You shared accounts with someone. You gave out your password to a friend, to share crits, and they changed it, effectively keeping your crits. Well you shared them so it's your own fault, we keep saying don't share.
  • You gave your password out to your friend. Because he's your 'friend'. Yeah right. A huge number of thefts seem to be from peoples real life 'friends' who were at the persons house and have stolen stuff. That is not my fault, it is your own for letting it happen.
  • Someone sent you a malicious file to break into your computer. Again, not my fault. Get a virus scanner, get a firewall, do whatever you want to secure your computer, but remember it is YOUR computer not mine, it's your job to protect it and if you fail to do so, it is not mine to get your characters back.
  • I don't care if your brother, sister, housemate, or whatever found your password out. This is another common thing that goes on. Just because they're family doesn't mean they won't take your password and rip you off (I've seen this happen too many times).


I've seen everything, and I'm tired of people expecting me to clear up after their own darn mistakes. Forum post after forum post. I don't see "Found a thief" I see "Found an idiot who didn't listen to the rules". Then when they have the nerve to complain to us, it is disheartening.

Add another password, add 20 more passwords, it makes no difference, although it will probably increase the amount of e-mail I get saying I forgot my password, which is ANOTHER thing I can't help you with. You could be anyone, how do I know it's your account? I don't, so keep your password SAFE. Write it on a piece of paper and lock it in your drawer or something.
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Shane on 10/21/03 at 15:15:03
Well every b!tch post I have seen I can solve thier b!tch myself.
  • Let see, complaint about hackers, dont download from anyone, friend or not this wont give you something to pregnant dog about
  • Hmm, another complaint about hackers, use a better password, try using alpha/numeric (numbers combined with letters) as a password, most of your "password cracker" programs are either alph or numeric, the really good ones that are both are really expensive and very hard to find plus take alot of coding
  • You ppl that are posting b!tch posts on this thread are getting kinda annoying, you know nothing of what it takes to build an area or what it takes to code this game, you know nothing of what the staff ARE doing while cloaked, but you have it in your little pee brain minds that they are evidently sitting on the same square as you laughing at you as you yell for help. Did it ever cross your train of thought that they might even not be online? Or perhaps they had to step A~F~K? Or that they could be right in the middle of a really good description in a new area and couldnt just /tp to you cause you yelled?
Now this b!tch and complain is getting kinda lame and old as Sera said. All you b!tchers out there wanna complain and say (says in a whinny voice) "You gotta be in TR or a high ranked clan to be staff!" What a lame reason to b!tch and whine. Good God ppl get a life and grow the **** up! Get out and do something, breath some fresh air, you evidently need it concidering the posts you have been making about YOUR computer and YOUR crits on a game that is FREE to YOU! Want real help, want the staff to do something? PAY FOR THE GAME!!!!

I have been on this game since just after the "Big Reset" and #1) I have never been HACKED #2) Have never been a victum of thieft and last but least #3) I have been overlooked for joining TR and being staff, I would like just one of you pregnant dogers to find a post made by me where I complain. I also have only sent in 1 email application to JLH and Pandilex for a staff position. And do I complain! God you ppl get over yourselves and play the game, its all just a bunch of data on a computer. Which is another persons computer and HACKERS DONT GET INTO. JLH protects his computer/server, you should learn how to protect your own.
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by Rappy_Ninja on 10/21/03 at 17:37:57

on 10/21/03 at 06:18:55, Abra wrote:
LoL , my was terrible story some Freak stole my 15.4 mil
AOLP , ARCH PALLY , 1 SG , MY MAIN ALT and More i just forgot STAFF DID NOTHING ABOUT IT!!!!!

AND IT REALLY SUCKS

I Hope He Goes to Hell and Someone STICK A NEEDLE ON HIS EYE

*Go To Hell Stick a needle in your EYE DARN HACKER*

i Hope He dies in a terrible dead  :o

LoL



not to be a arse or anything but you never knew how to use your money or crits anyway
Title: Re: Account/Crit Stealing;And what ISNT being done
Post by JLH on 10/21/03 at 20:43:50
I was reading this topic from the start and thinking to myself, I'll write a massive post at the end of this about how wrong you all are. But, Pandilex has summed up my thoughts exactly, and the only thing I can add, is to say that if we did actually "fix" all your thefts, I'd need more than 24 hours in a day.
Also, you'd be more inclined to share and give out your passwords, knowing that staff would fix your stupid mistakes.
Thefts roughly take about 6 hours to completely solve, and can only be done with access to the main logs, which only I have access to. Due to the size of the logs, they can't be sent over the internet to other people for "theft" issues either, and the only person who I would trust with the logs is Pandilex, since it contains all the passwords used that day etc.
Basically, the only time I am REQUIRED to fix a theft is if it is a server fault that caused the theft to happen, and that has NEVER occured.
It is always your own fault, I also wonder, if your computer has a trojen of some sorts on it, I hope you or your parents don't use online banking or buying or anything, since all your passwords are potentially at risk.


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