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Title: bringing up the past... Post by Ice_Cold on 10/02/03 at 07:51:46 Me and an old friend of mine were talking today about orc exp, how she use to be able to train down there decently without any problems, and then they wacked off 50 gold from the orcs, and then changed how much exp they give per hit...35...Now come on people, no matter who you are, you got to admit thats rediculous. Since I don't remember ever seeing an answer to why the lower people of nightmist, who don't have a bunch of high level crits or powerful friends to help them *or for that matter the maps to get them along* to train in places like Rose Garden, Jahanna, Museum, and the such, got screwed over. So..why have Orcs exp per hit been reduced lower then things such as...Rugged Thieves, Small Snakes, and Black Bears, all of which are easier and quicker to kill. |
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Title: Re: bringing up the past... Post by Aidon on 10/02/03 at 07:52:57 Links to maps are on sight, no reason you cant have them too. |
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Title: Re: bringing up the past... Post by Stigmata on 10/02/03 at 08:36:07 That doesn't answer his question though does it. Exp per hit should depend on several things in my opinion. Power of monster (hp and damage) - The higher the power the more exp. Location - If the monster is generally found away from safe spots such as towns it should have more exp. Rarity - If there's only 1 monster of the same type that spawns it should give more exp. If every staff member followed the same basic rules when building areas then there really wouldn't be a problem. |
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Title: Re: bringing up the past... Post by CPG on 10/02/03 at 20:20:52 http://www.nightmist-online.co.uk/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.pl?board=Helpforum;action=display;num=1059942537 |
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Title: Re: bringing up the past... Post by Ice_Cold on 10/02/03 at 20:24:36 point of giving that link was? there wasnt an answer on that subject, so im posting here. i beleive the same as you stigmata, since rugged rogues are above a tavern...small snakes are just south of nightmist and arilin, and black bears are just outside of nightmist in arilin, it would make sense that orcs would be giving more exp. I'm just wondering if there was ever an actual valid reason for thier exp being dropped so much lower then almost everything else in the game, it makes no sense to me, maybe it's a glitch that needs changed *which i highly doubt* |
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Title: Re: bringing up the past... Post by Aidon on 10/02/03 at 20:26:24 Orcs are not rare, and not hard to get to. they are pretty close to town also. |
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Title: Re: bringing up the past... Post by Ice_Cold on 10/02/03 at 20:51:42 not as close as small snakes, rugged thieves, and black bears... |
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Title: Re: bringing up the past... Post by deSade on 10/02/03 at 20:53:42 Fine, but they still shouldn't have lower exp as they are harder to kill. |
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Title: Re: bringing up the past... Post by Outsider on 10/02/03 at 20:53:49 I think Aidon means the one in BT, but the orc caves are pretty useless now, dont think anyone trains there. |
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Title: Re: bringing up the past... Post by Ice_Cold on 10/02/03 at 22:28:22 i still do, sadly, since im trying to get an arch back up enough to hit for reg damage when i get attacked other places. cant survive with an arch that hits for 20 and less damage, so im generally forced to train where no one else doesn, orc caves. but still even when it was reg hp and gold, it wasnt too popular either, it just doesnt make any sense to why they were reduced |
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Title: Re: bringing up the past... Post by Criminal on 10/03/03 at 00:10:39 Would you Plz Stop your Crying shesh All I Or anyone else i know anymroe all we hear is Whining and crying from ppl Just get it together it doesnt matter if the exp in orc caves sucks cuz no one goes there anymore so theirs no need for it to have its monsters giving great amounts of exp when you can find orcs just about anywhere, and second Ice_Cold if you had a Arch why don't you train in Desert Hmm? or even zeum instead of crying about orcs caves and showing how much of a crybaby you are try those places instead of orc caves i can promise you your arch would be over exp pretty quickly in those two area's faster then in any other place. so plz stop Whining and get over it. |
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Title: Re: bringing up the past... Post by Ice_Cold on 10/03/03 at 00:28:37 on 10/03/03 at 00:10:39, Criminal wrote:
how bout you, 1) get over yourself 2) get a life 3) know what your talking about before you speak... I'm asking WHY the exp was changed, I'm not crying, I'm not whining, I'm asking a very lagitamet question that has been asked by quite a few people, but has never been answered. The reason the orc caves don't get used is because they have no boss, they give crappy gold, and the crappiest exp out of anywhere besides arena's in the game. I remember when I would run into people down there all the time, and thats when there were only 4-5k crits in the game |
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Title: Re: bringing up the past... Post by Dunadan_ on 10/03/03 at 01:40:21 they was probably a valid reason, staff rarely do anything to make the game easier, they want to resolve so many problems and sometimes the solutions condratict one another... but instead of repeating the past, just move on, if the game continues to be to much of a problem, just leave, or take a break... you shouldnt get to attached to it. and lets try to keep it civil. |
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Title: Re: bringing up the past... Post by RaveChyld on 10/03/03 at 01:43:07 on 10/03/03 at 00:28:37, Ice_Cold wrote:
lmao if u have been around that long u should have more than just 1 arch |
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Title: Re: bringing up the past... Post by Dunadan_ on 10/03/03 at 01:46:42 u remember that civil bit that i spoke of... try to use tact... so keep it to yourself. |
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Title: Re: bringing up the past... Post by Sera on 10/03/03 at 02:04:28 Guys, can you please make it through one thread without bickering.. a simple question was asked... all we need is an answer. |
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Title: Re: bringing up the past... Post by Ice_Cold on 10/03/03 at 02:21:29 on 10/03/03 at 02:04:28, Sera wrote:
thank you :) that's all i want, is an answer, i figure there's a valid reason, i just wanna know what it is. |
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Title: Re: bringing up the past... Post by Tanis on 10/03/03 at 02:42:09 Let me be clear in saying this, Ice_Cold. It was changed, because JLH and Pandilex made this game, and therefore change anything they want, whenever they want. Right to ask a question? Pish posh, no rights on Nightmist. If they say jump, you say how high. Get the picture? |
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Title: Re: bringing up the past... Post by -Gaddy- on 10/03/03 at 04:23:51 True Ryan, true. Although I really think orc exp should be raised back to what it used to be..where else are new players going to train? that is where evan and chase took me when i started lancaster, it isnt that easy for a new player to train there..really, i remember. I also thing granite beasts should have higher exp, higher than orcs...something like 65. |
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Title: Re: bringing up the past... Post by Stigmata on 10/03/03 at 08:48:20 When i was staff i remember going through all the monsters changing exp based upon the above rules, which were approved by admin..... If they have been changed speak to JLH about it, he might have a valid reason. |
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Title: Re: bringing up the past... Post by Bean on 10/05/03 at 02:16:57 on 10/03/03 at 01:43:07, RaveChyld wrote:
I've been around even longer than that and I've never gotten an arch... Whats your point... Although all the characters on my account(s) Add up to about.... 500+ levels lol. Some people play for fun, not for the gains. |
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Title: Re: bringing up the past... Post by Ice_Cold on 10/05/03 at 02:22:31 on 10/05/03 at 02:16:57, Bean wrote:
thank you. im not trying to argue anymore, im just asking a question. i have been playigna long time, and ive never leveled one crit to arch, bad thing? no, i dont have the time, and i like playing lower levels more then higher levels. |
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