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(Message started by: Epic on 09/29/03 at 21:13:49)

Title: Whats the deal
Post by Epic on 09/29/03 at 21:13:49
Ok i'll start from yesturday...yesturday this girl (pyraa i think) was got banned then im'd me over aim and i asked her how she was going to pay me the gold she owed me if she was banned...she gave me the PW to her acct and said "take what you want" so i took what i wanted too...i wake up this morning then get im'd by like 5 people saying "your acct is banned" i guess what im confused about is why my acct is banned for logging in a diff acct i was GIVEN the pw too...

Feedback pls

Edit...Also something about raided the clan..well pyraa told me to give someone(not going to mention the name aloud)the crit Zellish..well since she gave me the pw i said ok and sent the crit to the kid...he took like 100k out of the clan bank and deleted Zellish...im supposed to pay for logging into an acct i was GIVEN the pw for...?

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Jurian on 09/29/03 at 21:16:27
just talked to jlh and he sais pandilex decided enough is enough and you get banned faster and i can fully understand him lol.

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Epic on 09/29/03 at 21:18:32
ok again..I'm banned for logging into an acct i knew the PW to?

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Sera on 09/29/03 at 21:19:23
If the person gave him the account/password and told him to take what they wanted... I don't see why he's banned. They TOLD him to TAKE what they wanted to take.

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Jurian on 09/29/03 at 21:20:36
well lol i'm talking to ed on msn and he go0t a perm ban cuz he did too much wrong over the years :D

maybe it's the same for you?

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Epic on 09/29/03 at 21:21:30
/t Jurian Because im known as a thief..? I'm pretty sure i havnt stole anything off NM

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by CPG on 09/29/03 at 21:23:36
Epic hasn't stolen or anything. He's been banned a few times for swearing at people out of anger. But the will of Pandilex is what goes. I'm just going to feel sorry for Chris if he never gets unbanned. :(

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Deathwish on 09/29/03 at 21:23:56
He was banned for reasons of logging the crit. Then going to broken clan house then REMOVING passwords on clan bank then REMOVING the gold without being given permission to do so... That is theft and is a bannable offense. He also REMOVED the passwords on the clan Vaults and REMOVED items which did not belong to him.

Theft is theft.. You were banned for stealing gold that did not belong to you.

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by >>---FEAR THIS--> on 09/29/03 at 21:25:10
im with you all the way man i think this is messed up he gets his account banned for doing basically nothing thats just wronge. plus he was given the pass and account and yet he account was banned because he took wut he wanted for the gold that pryaa owed him. i think that is wronge!!

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Outsider on 09/29/03 at 21:25:17

on 09/29/03 at 21:19:23, Sera wrote:
If the person gave him the account/password and told him to take what they wanted... I don't see why he's banned. They TOLD him to TAKE what they wanted to take.


Exactly my thoughts, but telling JLH he said its Pandi's new policy to bann and ask questions later. Anyways as i see it one by one the old players get perm banned, if they did something wrong or didn't cuz the finger always point to the ppl that have the most.

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Demonic on 09/29/03 at 21:26:23
all know it is wrong and I'm glad I didn't get banned when I stole an acc a time ago but hey.. I won't do it again since it looks like staff finally chose to do anything

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Jurian on 09/29/03 at 21:28:21

on 09/29/03 at 21:20:36, Jurian wrote:
well lol i'm talking to ed on msn and he go0t a perm ban cuz he did too much wrong over the years :D

maybe it's the same for you?


never said you did :D

just suggesting this might be the reason you got banned, bad behaviour

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by AnArChY on 09/29/03 at 21:28:28

on 09/29/03 at 21:26:23, Demonic wrote:
all know it is wrong and I'm glad I didn't get banned when I stole an acc a time ago but hey.. I won't do it again since it looks like staff finally chose to do anything
 your one smart cookie eh lol

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Epic on 09/29/03 at 21:29:05
/t Deathwish You dont know anything....did you not read the whole thing...

Edit...Also something about raided the clan..well pyraa told me to give someone(not going to mention the name aloud)the crit Zellish..well since she gave me the pw i said ok and sent the crit to the kid...he took like 100k out of the clan bank and deleted Zellish...im supposed to pay for logging into an acct i was GIVEN the pw for...?

And besides that i thought staff didnt promote sharing so why am i getting the shaft..

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Demonic on 09/29/03 at 21:29:56
/nod I am
Ppl stole off me and nothing happened so I also dicided to steal... I hope this will change since staff is going to do something well done staffers

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Epic on 09/29/03 at 21:30:12

on 09/29/03 at 21:28:21, Jurian wrote:
never said you did :D

just suggesting this might be the reason you got banned, bad behaviour


Bad behavior..consisting of logging in an acct that i was given the PW to..?  How is that bad behaviour

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by CPG on 09/29/03 at 21:31:07
Haha, nice Tevlok. I'd think that admitting to stealing will now get you banned pretty fast. If not, then yeah, you're lucky.

Also, I thought that clan thefts weren't going to be dealt with anymore. Mostly because it is a trust issue and can be blamed on a lot of people other than the actual thieves.

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Demonic on 09/29/03 at 21:31:22

on 09/29/03 at 21:29:05, Epic wrote:
/t Deathwish You dont know anything....did you not read the whole thing...

Edit...Also something about raided the clan..well pyraa told me to give someone(not going to mention the name aloud)the crit Zellish..well since she gave me the pw i said ok and sent the crit to the kid...he took like 100k out of the clan bank and deleted Zellish...im supposed to pay for logging into an acct i was GIVEN the pw for...?

And besides that i thought staff didnt promote sharing so why am i getting the shaft..

Coz there is only one rule: There are no rules
Staff does how they feel like... I also would prefer to have any rules and anything like fair punishment but seems like staff can't handle that :/

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Deathwish on 09/29/03 at 21:32:14
Maybe you should scroll up and read my post....

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Demonic on 09/29/03 at 21:32:51

on 09/29/03 at 21:31:07, CPG wrote:
Haha, nice Tevlok. I'd think that admitting to stealing will now get you banned pretty fast. If not, then yeah, you're lucky.

Also, I thought that clan thefts weren't going to be dealt with anymore. Mostly because it is a trust issue and can be blamed on a lot of people other than the actual thieves.

I admitted to JLH and told him I'm going to robb ppl and I also told pandilex. They just said it is their own fault if they give me acc passes and they would be unable to do something even if they aren't ok with it. I see no point to lie... why not admitt it? They could see in loggs anyways lol

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Outsider on 09/29/03 at 21:33:12

on 09/29/03 at 21:32:14, Deathwish wrote:
Maybe you should scroll up and read my post....


Didn't he just explain that that was the guy who he gave the crit too, meaning it wasnt him  ::)

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Jurian on 09/29/03 at 21:33:58

on 09/29/03 at 21:30:12, Epic wrote:
Bad behavior..consisting of logging in an acct that i was given the PW to..?  How is that bad behaviour

read dude read, maybe you didn't do anything wrong this time but pandilex took it as something wrong and because you might have done bad things before it might jsut ahve been this last thingy was the last drop and he banned you.

dude i'm not accusing you of anything just writing what i think that might be it.

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Jinx on 09/29/03 at 21:34:24
I don't see what he did wrong here :-\

/t tevlok I'd keep quiet if I were you

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Jurian on 09/29/03 at 21:35:28

on 09/29/03 at 21:34:24, Jinx wrote:
I don't see what he did wrong here :-\

/t tevlok I'd keep quiet if I were you


maybe the girl said he stole from her? don't know why she would but maybe, don't think he did anything wrong here either.

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Demonic on 09/29/03 at 21:35:33
Why should I keep quiet? I was banned 2 weeks and some crits got removed out of my acc... and well I don't care. I did it and so I can admitt coz I ain't someone who hides behind any kind of lies

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by AnArChY on 09/29/03 at 21:39:27
uhm lol this spose to be about epic not ur selfs  

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by CPG on 09/29/03 at 21:40:30
The stuff in the account was Zellish's (aka Fluff). He shared with Pryaa for awhile. Apparently, Pryaa turned bad and decided to have some fun or whatever. Epic is just a scapegoat, he didn't do anything wrong.

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Epic on 09/29/03 at 21:40:31
Well how bout this...

?????????????: ill talk to jlh

?????????????: cause you DIDNT steal

Thats from the girl that GAVE me the PW

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Outsider on 09/29/03 at 21:41:03
Maybe we should make a pot about who gets the next perm bann. Cuz i think Pandi's on a roll.

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Vodka on 09/29/03 at 21:46:38
First off, Chris...

Zellish wasn't Pryaa's. She's the one who somehow got the pass to the owner's account.. and started giving away stuff. I'm assuming what you got out of that account wasn't hers as well. I could see if you would've known.. it was already a stolen account.. but, you didn't.. and you're being punished for nothing.

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Epic on 09/29/03 at 21:47:40
Well thanks for your support...hopefully staff will see it the same way as 98% of nightmist does

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Rage on 09/29/03 at 22:00:37
This is crap, chris did nothing wrong.  Your saying if u give ur account pass to someone they should be banned, well i guess this eliminates sharing then huh.  Im sorry chris u did nothing wrong to be banned.

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Epic on 09/29/03 at 22:04:47
It's just like when people share....if one person takes the whole acct(because they knew the pw)do they get banned...no because staff doesnt support sharing...so that kid shared with pryaa and i was GIVEN the PW...so why is my acct banned...

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Puppet on 09/29/03 at 22:05:34
I agree. You've done nothing. Since it was a shared account, those crits also belonged to Pryaa, did they not? Meaning she has the right to give them to whomever she thought deserved them. The fact that she told him to send it to someone has nothing to do that they were HERS TO BEGIN WITH. Staff even said, once you share, they are as much yours as they are the other persons. She had the RIGHT to send it off, Chris did NOTHING to be banned.

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Deathwish on 09/29/03 at 22:07:40
For the last time... You weren't banned for accessing Zellish's crits. You were banned becuase you walked into the Broken clan house then removed passwords on the vaults and on the clan bank AND then REMOVING all the gold and items as you saw fit.... There are logs showing that, JLH read through them and therefore you were banned.

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Sera on 09/29/03 at 22:08:41
If I'm reading things correctly the person he sent Zellish to did that.. NOT HIM... and he was told by a co-owner of the account to send that crit to that person!

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Epic on 09/29/03 at 22:10:04
I also just found out that yesturday when all this happened someon asked Pandi to do something and he said "Nothing i can do..they gave out the password" ...so again i ask why is my acct banned

Edit

/nod Sera

What part of i was told to send zellish to someone else dont you understand..

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Omniscient on 09/29/03 at 22:10:33
Then ban whoever he gave the crit to who stole that stuff as well then.

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Deathwish on 09/29/03 at 22:10:53
I was talking to JLH as he read through the logs, he told me that the logs show Epic receiving the gold from what was in the Broken clan bank...

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by NicoleBaby on 09/29/03 at 22:11:06
I don't see how you could get banned when staff say they won't help if you 'share' because you give them access to do anything. So even you took everything she told you you could. So in that case you didn't steal....  ::)

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Vodka on 09/29/03 at 22:11:24
Someone got Zellish's pass... then Pryaa was dropping things at sgh and giving his pass out. (I don't know if Pryaa shared with him or not though.) I was told someone then logged on Zellish and stole from the clan house. I highly doubt Chris would steal anything.. when he can't tolerate thieves himself.

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Omniscient on 09/29/03 at 22:11:59
The ban was for stealing from the clan vault and bank, not for stealing from someone's account.

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Deathwish on 09/29/03 at 22:13:24
For the last time.... He wasn't banned for logging on zellish!!! Read my post again.

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Epic on 09/29/03 at 22:15:05
/t Omni I'm not going to say to ban the person that had Zellish just..well just because......but by all means JLH or Pandi check the logs for zellish...see if the ip that zellish was on taking things from Broken matches mine...$20 says it wasnt mine  ::)

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Deathwish on 09/29/03 at 22:15:15
/t Vodka the logs show it.

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Deathwish on 09/29/03 at 22:16:28
/t Epic The logs show that you received the gold, thus you are sharing and should go thank your buddy for it...

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Vodka on 09/29/03 at 22:16:30
I just got word.. that a crit was found it Chris's account..  :-/

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Epic on 09/29/03 at 22:17:06
/t Deathwish just stop all your bickering...the logs show nothing involving Zellish and my ip because i wasnt the one on Zellish lol...and you really dont even know whats going on so your input isnt needed anymore

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Omniscient on 09/29/03 at 22:17:45
Ummm how exactly does he not know what's going on?

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Deathwish on 09/29/03 at 22:19:37
/t Epic you are funny... I am talking to JLH about this. So what you are actually saying is that JLH has no idea what is going on in his game?

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Epic on 09/29/03 at 22:22:46
yeh some of the crits were in one of my 'off shore" accts..wuts that mean...i was told "take what you want out of my acct"

PS..and why doesnt jlh get ahold of me and lets talk

Title: Re: Whats the deal
Post by Deathwish on 09/29/03 at 22:29:56
So taking would then be breaking into other peoples vaults and the clan vault then steal all the gold....



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