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Title: Possible Game Reset Post by Pandilex on 08/17/03 at 16:12:49 With the increased amount of people offering items for real life money it is disrupting the nightmist economy. I do not endorse the selling of anything within the nightmist game in exchange for anything outside of the nightmist game (such as real life money). It creates an unfair advantage, and disrupts the balance of power. If this problem does not stop I'll simply solve it with a reset of characters, game items etc. Should you choose to ignore this warning, remember this: I don't find out about illegal trades and secret transactions by looking... Instead I have people in game who are always willing to let me know if big events are taking place. I'm not afraid to watch someone spend $$$ on an account and have their money wasted as I delete it (individually OR by resetting the game). |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Nightmist Legend on 08/17/03 at 16:16:53 Lmfao!! Pandilex, i don't play anymore as you know but. . that is an unfair thing to do, people have spent real money cause they wan't to others can too, if they are poor too bad. Technically, you're stealing money off them, to give it to another. If people want to buy things, let them. This would be another fall for Nightmist, yep, only a few people would play, if i we're to be unbanned, i'd probs play, but to be honest, im not intrested, but having a reset NOONE would want, they'd probably rather it be unfair with people buying stuff. ~Rich. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by azaman123 on 08/17/03 at 16:23:31 you should reset all crits!! im getting annoyed at the fact that all the archies are so... proud of the archmasterness and they all take the mick outta the n00bs ... reset will stop this as all the crits will lvl at a neer same pace :) have to admit its the best thing to do... ? |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Sausage on 08/17/03 at 16:25:01 NO NO NO NO NO!!! >:( |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Nightmist Legend on 08/17/03 at 16:25:08 lol, dude, has nothing to do with n00bs, ya n00b. Its not the right way to go, definatly not at this stage, Nightmist has allready lost many players, pandilex, was this just -your- idea or JLH's too? |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Anthony on 08/17/03 at 16:26:02 What balance of power? there aint no balance, besides all the ballers in TR. if people want to waste real life money to buy something for a video game, let them. I think its pretty sad anyway; people could be savin money for cars, but no, theyd rather have a blade of time or a cobalt staff of the winds! whatever they're thinking, let them do it, really its their problem if they buy stuff with real currency. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by GoLdEnStAr on 08/17/03 at 16:26:20 on 08/17/03 at 16:23:31, azaman123 wrote:
but the experienced players will just simply get to arch again since they know the game, where to train etc... |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Anthony on 08/17/03 at 16:31:49 it aint right to reset, people have worked hard for what theyve done. if anything, should start day/week banning the players who do buy/sell stuff for real currency or tangible stuff. for the rest of us honest players, dont punish us too. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Medora on 08/17/03 at 16:32:31 Whats the difference in buying items with real cash over sending in donations for a custom pic then selling the crit with the pic in game? Either way its game stuff earned with real life money dont you think?? |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by yoyoyo on 08/17/03 at 16:33:21 Dont be that harsh pandilex, let them waste their money... it doesnt bother anyone else, we just pity them cause its not very smart unless youv got alot of money, so plz just let em do it. I dont have alot of time to get money and crits and stuff like that so occasionly id be willing to pay a small amount of money to buy these things. Just write a little thing in agreement terms that you are not held responsible for something like one person ripping the other off, and maybe you could design a form for people, asking for full name, address, age, ect. and all the info must be valid or they will not make the trade and if one rips off then other may file lawsuit on other ; ) |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by RaveChyld on 08/17/03 at 16:36:23 I think you sould just bann everyone that sells their stuff for RL cash and everyone that buys stuff for RL cash (like gus ;D ) |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Sausage on 08/17/03 at 16:37:12 on 08/17/03 at 16:25:08, Nightmist Legend wrote:
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Artemis on 08/17/03 at 16:38:56 Woah.. lets not go overboard... Individual account/crit deletion as punishment for the people who do this I can understand, but repremanding the entire game just because of 3 or 4 people? That's just.. complete madness. A simple warning could have prevented all of this, no need to trip potatoe chip! Also you have to see the bad side of throwing around threats... now that you have, alot of people will continue it just to spite your authority because they don't care. It just doesn't seem like the most wise decision to wipe out the whole game because of a few bad apples. Simon, how much coffee have you drank thismorning?... :P |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Bobbity on 08/17/03 at 16:41:19 JLH and Pandilex have agreed on what's been said above. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Sausage on 08/17/03 at 16:42:54 :o on 08/17/03 at 16:25:01, Sausage wrote:
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by azaman123 on 08/17/03 at 16:49:02 I think the game should be reset. Simple as. But the only problem i have with it is that the last game reset there was like 7 ppl on on average. there was no lag though that was good and who ever said im a n00b is dumn ask pandi how long ive played nm, trust me i chill out on the game i dont worry about lvls and stuff, just have fun that what the game is for isnt it? Also game reset will result in clean server and faster game play >>> Pandi - you know you want to... :) ;) |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Nightmist Legend on 08/17/03 at 16:54:41 I said your a n00b, and my comment stays the same. If you're not bothered and you want to chill on a game, why are you so uptight about a reset? You also said it would make it fairer for n00bs (yourself) So therefor you are bothered. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Mephistroth on 08/17/03 at 16:55:40 Personally I think the game needs a reset. I know people have worked hard on getting their stuff, and I understand that.. but a reset really is needed. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Milenia on 08/17/03 at 16:55:57 I've worked hard to get my crits to what level they are...I dont even have an Archie!! The game shouldnt be reset because the small minority have done wrong...they should be punished, and the honest (as sum1 called the good players) do their bit to play the game A reset would annoy people royally, and you would loose alot of players, as everyone knows it takes a while to get crits to high levels, and after getting 5 crits to level 25, and you try for a 6th, you realise how slow it is.... There shouldnt be a reset, just ban those who do the wrong. I dont want to loose my Level 28 =(( i'd prolly quit if i did...n if someone lost bout 10 archies (which some people do own)...i think they'd prolly be a tad annoyed. It ain't fair to punish those who are innocent... Reconcider, please? |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Sausage on 08/17/03 at 16:56:29 (That was a little much.. :-/) If you want to punish people for doing that you might first WANT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES FIRST!!!! Then just punish the people that are doing it. DON'T RESET THE WHOLE GAME!! Edit: It just doesn't make sense to lash out with a HUGE iron fist when you haven't even warned them. And the consequence is WAY overboard. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Milenia on 08/17/03 at 16:59:05 nice cursing frenzy....it suits ya =P |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Mephistroth on 08/17/03 at 17:00:37 The resets needed. It's that simple. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Sausage on 08/17/03 at 17:01:21 /t meph Oh shut up you stupid retard. :D /t milenia I didn't go into a cursing frenzy lol I had to slow down to make sure I wouldn't start typing multiple obscenities. (Which I wouldn't really do anyway...) |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Mephistroth on 08/17/03 at 17:02:09 Nice mature attitude there ::) |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Sepherus on 08/17/03 at 17:02:41 I for one support this. Games should be about skill, not the size of your wallet. I've been around for a reset before and I can honestly say that the game was more fun just after than before. It's also a great opportunity to make some changes and improvements... |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Sausage on 08/17/03 at 17:03:09 Notice the smiley face? It was all in good fun. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Mephistroth on 08/17/03 at 17:06:46 I agree with Sephuers.. skill plays no part in this game now. All it is is who has the biggest wallet, or who has the most amount of crits (even if there all bad stats, you can still over power them) |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Bobbity on 08/17/03 at 17:09:31 There are ups and downs of a total reset, I personally am against it. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Sausage on 08/17/03 at 17:09:56 I'm done posting. I think I made my point. ;D It sure would be weird with a complete reset though. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Milenia on 08/17/03 at 17:10:56 Besides, if everything was reset, what would happen to Clans, and the money spent on clans...thats all money wasted if everyone is lvl 1, n its lvl 10 for clannies. also what bout items and gold people own, what happens to them? are they just thrown into their inventory, n hope they dont die n loose items? It wouldn't be fair. But this is enough of a warning to stop me from even considering buying with money (not that i wud, or cud, not got a job), but i wuda donated by now already. I say a vote should be cast, I've seen them before in forum. You just click the button, and then vote...the score is recorded, but u can only do it once, rather than over n over. n when 75% of the population of nightmist forum has voted, then thats the outcome. But i still vote No to the Reset, and Yes to harder punishments for people who sell items for RL money. Also another thing i noticed, those who buy and sell use $$$'s. Are the few who are selling/buying american? im not being racial or whatever it is called for a country, but i dont care what color, race, or what country you from...just stop ruining the game!!! I've been addicted to it, n trying to donate, but if its reset, I'd prolly leave game, n packup |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by dognapot on 08/17/03 at 17:12:31 wow alot of the responses here are incredibly moronic. i'll make this brief. nightmist is not your revenue machine. it's JLH's money pit and that's how we likes it 'round here. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Bobbity on 08/17/03 at 17:16:49 Money and equipment would be deleted, not put into someone's inventory. And also, why are you so against buying and selling for real money? Edit: Muaha, beat you by 4 seconds :D |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Mephistroth on 08/17/03 at 17:16:53 on 08/17/03 at 17:10:56, Milenia wrote:
I don't think you understand what a reset is. EVERYTHING GETS DELETED. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Sepherus on 08/17/03 at 17:18:13 on 08/17/03 at 16:16:53, Nightmist Legend wrote:
Rubbish, show me the guarantee which states items will be around for ever. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by RaveChyld on 08/17/03 at 17:22:43 A reset would be good and bad at the same time..it would be good in the fact that it would remove ALOT of inactive crits and if people would quit so sorry so sad that means less lag for the people that would stick around..in the bad point people would loose all their stuff and hard work but hey if you have anything worth keeping then you probably have allready been through 1 reset..i am for the reset. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Zephie on 08/17/03 at 17:26:06 It's not really up for discussion, reading over Pandilex's post he states that if the trades continue the game WILL be reset. Whether your 'for it or against it" really matters not. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Ril<l<u on 08/17/03 at 17:28:51 I didnt train my crits to arch for the to get reset, and Im not going to start a new account so they could get reset in the future. alot of people would quit after the reset whether that good or bad. If theres a reset then Ill quit, but that might be a good reason to go ahead with it tho :-/ |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Matt on 08/17/03 at 17:30:27 Power Trip Pandilex needs something to be in control of now eh?! |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by azaman123 on 08/17/03 at 17:32:20 WELL WHAT THE HELL DO U THINK THIS FORUM TOPIC IF FOR - IMBOSIL!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by CPG on 08/17/03 at 17:35:12 Honestly, I don't think too many people will leave. This game is addicting. Everybody keeps saying "This will make people leave and your game will suck". The truth is, only a small amount of people would leave. I mean, who wouldn't want to watch a new world unfold as Nightmist regains what it has lost? So your clicking, I mean work, gets deleted. Oh well. It's like school, there's no real point in it, but you do it anyways. Definite plus side would be clearing the pbase. Right now, there are 17602 crits. The average number of players on is about 100. You can't honestly say that this is ok. A fresh start is just what this game needs. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by JLH on 08/17/03 at 17:38:09 note, all those crits are considered active, since the sweep is every 2 months. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Artemis on 08/17/03 at 17:38:10 I believe the previous reset only took place because JLH/Pan were not satisfied with the economy of the game as a whole, or the balance(Correct me if i'm wrong). But as you can see from the comments of other players, buying or selling nightmist material for RL money is not affecting the balance what-so ever, all it means to us is that some fool really has no life and is shallow enough to waste their money. It just makes them look pathetic. And if you really take a close look at the people who have bought things this way, they usually seem discouraged and embarassed with their new reputation and quit in the end. (Going off-topic a little) There are many players who are probably willing to donate money to keep nightmist running even now, even when they know JLH can handle the expenses himself.. and it's only because they are pleased with the game the way it is. I know that the loss of players due to a reset does not influence decisions made, but you would lose those good players who generously donate out of the goodness of their heart (i.e Jurian). Hell if i could afford to i would send ya 50$/mo. just as an inducement to keep it going the way it is, and i'm sorry i can't. It does really stink that some players think buying their way to the top will make them a better player. And truthfully it reeks even more that you'd consider starting from square 1 all over again rather than just simply terminate the pests who are abusing this. And to those of you who say you're bored with the way it is now, well fark off! If it's SO boring then why do 99.9% of you sit and play it 24/7? Find something else to do, the rest of us play because we ARE entertained by it.. if you don't like it thats your loss. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Prophet on 08/17/03 at 17:44:49 There is no point on arguing on here, as people who are better and have worked really hard to get their stuff will not want a reset and the new players who envy the older players and the better players will want a reset! P.S. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RESET P.S.S Reset also had soming to do with the code being written really really badly. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Nikki-NY on 08/17/03 at 17:50:22 I see most of you haven't spent the last year in the arena just getting to lvl 28 ( Deaths by Players: 25 Players Killed: 6 Monsters Killed: 9936 ) I have 5 archy's too but I worked hard to buy crits ( with in-game gold ) & lvl them too... I still don't know my way around the game yet ( yes, I'm still a noob :P ) now you say I should start from nothing again, while the old time players make Arch in 2 days??? You know the old saying, " There's always bad apples in a bushel." But you don't throw out the entire bushel because of them... I played another game for almost 5 years & NEVER once was there a reset on anything... Punishing those that are wrongful I can understand, but everyone? I personally don't think I'd return to spend another year to watch another reset... This is just my personal opinion... |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Nightmist Legend on 08/17/03 at 17:50:23 After reading everything yes, a reset is needed. Sepherus made a great point, yes i bought stuff, but i got rid of it, cause it was a waste, although, i don't regret it, i had fun at the time. Reset is needed. ~Rich |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Bill on 08/17/03 at 17:52:19 I like the idea of another reset, sure i've spent alot of time on this game in the past almost two years, but sure it's only a game, and it adds some more depth to the game. Sure the same people will get the first archs, but will the same people be the most powerful? Possibly not. And to those people who complain about their so called 'work' getting deleted, if a save game file that you still play after you've completed the game (ie. max level, killed all bosses etc.) gets erased, do you quit playing the game forever or try again? It's only a bit of fun. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Exor on 08/17/03 at 17:53:53 I agree.A reset is needed :) |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Nikki-NY on 08/17/03 at 17:54:53 Very well said Artemis!!!! I think the thread should be closed with your comment.... :) |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Artemis on 08/17/03 at 17:57:50 on 08/17/03 at 17:50:22, Nikki-NY wrote:
You speak for more people than just yourself heh. And Rich.. you are a prime example of one of those players who are causing this disruption..so you have NO room to speak. It's "bad apples" like you who tend to ruin good things like nightmist for people who appreciate it. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Medora on 08/17/03 at 17:58:19 I completely disagree with a reset. You punish the whole for something a few do that -you- see as wrong then the way you are beheld in the eyes of the players will suffer. If you had 6 children, and one of them did something wrong, would you punish the other 5 for the 1s mistake? I think not. I am aware that my opinion doesn't matter, that no ones opinion matters, but that doesn't mean I don't have the right to express my thoughts on the issue. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Zephie on 08/17/03 at 18:02:09 Your opinion matters to me ;D :-* |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Bill on 08/17/03 at 18:02:13 on 08/17/03 at 17:58:19, Medora wrote:
Yes, it would teach the other 5 that doing it was wrong, so they won't do it themselves, and also teaches them to not support the other 1, and possibly stop them from doing it, as everyone would suffer for that 1's ignorance. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Sausage on 08/17/03 at 18:02:24 IF there were to be a reset, would it just be a reset or would you revamp nightmist? An hour just to wipe out everything, or weeks to code everything and all that?? Will there be a reset? I've lost my urge to train now... |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Ril<l<u on 08/17/03 at 18:03:54 I was considering training but Ive thought otherwise suddenly |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by CPG on 08/17/03 at 18:09:08 on 08/17/03 at 17:58:19, Medora wrote:
My mom did that to me and my siblings, heh. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Harky on 08/17/03 at 18:10:58 If you look closely at the first post, it says there may be a reset if the trading of nightmist items with out of game stuff continues. This tells me that a simple way to stop a reset happening is not to condone the further buying/selling of items/characters, it really is that simple. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Medora on 08/17/03 at 18:11:01 You dont Punish the others for what the 1 has done or you are a bad parent. What you do, -talk- to them, explain what the 1 has done, and explain why they are being punished. Yes people learn from mistakes, but they Also learn from watching others experience things, and Listening to the advice of those that have had similiar situations. *loves Zephie* ty dear :-* |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by PuppeT on 08/17/03 at 18:14:51 See Pandilex, this is where you're wrong. If there is a reset, in the 'new' NightMist, people will buy the first Archmaster characters for real money. NOTHING WILL STOP PEOPLE FROM DOING THIS. IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU RESET THE GAME. If people want to waste their money on buying stuff for a text-based game, let them. It's their loss of money that they worked hard for. This is no reason to reset the game, because few people will attempt to buy characters/items for real money just to spite you. People are ENCOURAGING you to restart the game so they will be equal to all the Nightmist Elders. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Pandilex on 08/17/03 at 18:15:36 Rule #2: Pandilex is always right. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Insomnia on 08/17/03 at 18:16:30 Pandilex just wants to force people to keep up with playing the game... but fine, reset the game. I'd love too see how many people would stay after the result off having years of training simply deleted. Start over with rolling, rolling and rolling would feel so... attractive. ::) I ain't selling everything cause I think this game sucks so d**n much, guess what? I'm in debt, can't get a work and need quick money. I'd rather sell some of my nightmist stuff rather than selling my dog and my TV. But thank you very much Simon, for not allowing me to. I love you. And if you don't believe me, ask some of my friends who knows. Why would I lie to them? |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Drac on 08/17/03 at 18:17:18 I don't see why you people view a reset as a punishment. It would not change the game for anyone or give people a disadvantage, it would just put everything on a smaller scale for a little while, which I think would be great. Ive been considering donating a lil bit.. i might even be prompted to donate more if a reset was issued (to spite Artemis' comment) It would be cool to watch journeymen and experts run around for a few weeks lol. I see nothing wrong with a reset.. and this isnt just coming from someone who has nothing and wants everyone else to have nothing as well. I have plenty.. as do many other players who have the same ideas as me. Thing is, we see this as a new way to have fun and enjoy the game, not a banishment of the worst kind. You dont have to have 10 archmasters to have fun in this game. Putting the game on a smaller scale would be just as much fun, if not more. Im for a reset.. it wouldnt hurt the game at all. It would prolly do it some good in fact. And theres no reason for anyone to cry about it.. unless of course you are one of the ones that bought items for r/l money.. but then, u deserve it so who cares. :) |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Issy on 08/17/03 at 18:17:50 on 08/17/03 at 18:02:13, Bill wrote:
You have logic behind that, but its no reason to punish them. Next thing you know those other 5 kids are gonna slap children and youth on you because your "treating them un-fairly." If your kids are well behaved, they would realize that "oh this will happen to me if i do that so i shouldn't do it." anyways i'm talking about children...totally off the subject i guess.. ??? I don't think the game should be reset - just punish those that want to sell Nightmist stuff for money. And i agree with Jess, if it is so boring why does everyone play it? And also, if i had the money to donate to Nightmist, I would donate as often as I could. Ah well, Isaiah. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Issy on 08/17/03 at 18:21:16 on 08/17/03 at 18:17:18, Drac wrote:
It is a punishment to those who work hard for what they do in Nightmist. Not all of Nightmist should be punished, just those who buy and sell Nightmist things for $$. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Gintonic on 08/17/03 at 18:24:06 #1 i never bought any crits/items in nm with real cash. but i do believe that players have the choice to buy and sell their account/crit/items for real cash. its their property and they know the risk of buyin/sellin stuffs over the internet. #2 "It creates an unfair advantage, and disrupts the balance of power." currently, there are existing "expert player clan" and there are "nOOb clans"..... why does it concern you? #3 "Instead I have people in game who are always willing to let me know if big events are taking place." <<< these trusted ones, are they 100% Reliable? they are also people and have a tendency to get a little greedy or do things for their own benefits/advantages. #4 "I'm not afraid to watch someone spend $$$ on an account and have their money wasted as I delete it (individually OR by resetting the game)." they can do transactions using other internet chat programs, e.g. Aim, Aol, Mirc, Msn, Yahoo, etc.How can you or your so called trusted ones monitor those transactions? #5 and let us not forget those new players, those who work hard to get their crit to expert/master/archy lvl if you do the reset. the expert players know where to train and the best way to gain exp., while new players usually spend most of their time in the trainin arena. what do you think? will u loose both expert and new players by doin the reset? #6 i saw staffs sellin golds for real cash in the forum" so dont be so hard on the players who can buy stuffs with real cash. ;P #7 Reset is your only solution? #8 Example : after the reset : what if someone got a crit to expert, master, archy lvl after a week and sold it again with real cash, you guys will reset everything again? ::) :-* |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Bill on 08/17/03 at 18:24:33 on 08/17/03 at 18:16:30, Insomnia wrote:
Personally i wouldn't mind, it's only a d**n game, not like the items you might loose are worth any money (haha), games are supposed to be for fun, nothing serious, so why is everyone so attached to their 'work'. God knows what would happen if something happened to the server or whatever and all the data and everything is lost, some people would probly just cry and cry, it's not even real! You're whining over pieces of information on a computer, things which can be created or destroyed withing a second (well less). Try actually working for something real in life, and find out what it feels like to have something real taken away from you. Granted i may have spent just as much time training crits and whatever on this as you, but really i don't care, it's not real, get over it! ;D |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Tanis on 08/17/03 at 18:25:49 I think there should be a reset. I've been looking for a reason to throw in the towel and this would be one. Although you should just set examples and delete the money/D2/RoK bought accounts. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Drac on 08/17/03 at 18:28:46 no issy.. it wouldnt be a punishment.. ive worked hard for my nightmist stuff too.. but not like the work i did was grueling and not fun at all.. i had fun gaining my stuff along the way.. as did everyone else im sure. It wouldnt be a punishment for anyone if EVERYONE was reset.. like i said, it would just put things on a smaller scale.. it wouldnt take away any of your work.. bc everyone elses work would be taken away too.. this is hard to explain but i hope you understand what im saying. Consider this.. the president has decided that everyone give back 75% of the wealth that they own.. that would force people to sell goods and services for less.. therefore you wouldnt need as much money to get the things you need.. therefore you didnt really LOSE anything.. it was all just put on a smaller scale. I hope you all understand what im saying here :P |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by CPG on 08/17/03 at 18:32:11 Once again, I bring up this point. Since when is clicking considered work. If you sweat from clicking, you're in a fatal state. I think you meant time. Also, U.S players must remember that the laws set in your country do not necessarily exist in the UK. Also, Pandilex and JLH are always right. It took me a while to believe this, but yeah, they're right. Their game, their rules. Follow them or face the consequences. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Drac on 08/17/03 at 18:36:10 AND.. JLH.. Pandilex... Whatever you are going to do.. announce it soon.. bc ive currently put all of my training, etc on a hault until this is all sorted out.. bc i dont wanna continue playing if theres gonna be a reset tomorrow lol |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Sausage on 08/17/03 at 18:41:13 Well this sucks.. Not the reset but not knowing when/if it's actually going to happen. ??? I've lost any and all urge to train. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by CPG on 08/17/03 at 18:42:00 Question: Would the game and website be unaffected? This would only wipe the pbase right? Like there will still be the rename/sex change/reset options right? |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Hotpocket on 08/17/03 at 18:43:50 reset reset reset |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Mephistroth on 08/17/03 at 18:45:00 Well.. a reset is actually going to make me play again. I still play, but only to buy sell characters/items. Thats how I make my money, buy a cheap crit, sell for more. It takes longer but its fun and takes a lot less effort than training. But with a reset I'll actually be forced to train again, which is good lol. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Sausage on 08/17/03 at 18:46:31 I want a reset right now. I know someone will end up selling something for IRL money. Why postpone (sp) the inevitable?? |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by CPG on 08/17/03 at 18:49:02 rofl, I bet that Dragonedge guy is peeing his pants in joy right now. |
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Title: :-/Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Artemis on 08/17/03 at 18:49:35 Reset means starting from 0, nadda, scratch, ziltch, nothing. Starting over... Just drop it guys, no point in fighting it and besides no one said the reset is definitly going to happen no matter what, so yeah. This is the first.. and final warning..i guess a harsh one but ohwell. It is quite obvious that a reset is inappropriate.. lets just try to keep our cool and well, you know :-/ |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by DarkPrime on 08/17/03 at 18:50:45 Reseting the game would really suck for the players who dont cheat. I have put so many hours of my life into this game just to get where i am at now. And to reset teh game and start from square one means that all that hard work is for nothing. Loyal players who just love playing should not have to pay for what a bunch of butt heads are doing! If you should reset the game it would throw the intire game into one flipping mess. Clan that worked so hard to get to the high positions would be destroyed. My main crit is a lvl 19 fighter i hav e other crit that are almost 20 i worked my butt off getting them there and i dont want to do that all over again. >:( >:( >:( |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Zylia on 08/17/03 at 18:51:30 I'm indifferent. It's a game. A reset wouldn't kill us all. Half the reason people still play now is because they want to make more money. They train alts so that they could possibly sell them down the road. Why not make the game go back to the way it was meant to be, and not just a crit market? |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Stotic on 08/17/03 at 18:54:09 I've seen those who bought stuff and sold stuff in other games banned. |
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Title: Re: :-/Possible Game Reset Post by Mephistroth on 08/17/03 at 18:55:47 on 08/17/03 at 18:49:35, Artemis wrote:
Why? It's quite the opposite actually. A reset would be a great time to introduce new ideas and features, which would obviously improve the game. It's also a great opportunity to make all classes balanced, sort out mage spells etc. No bad can come from this.. only good. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Matt on 08/17/03 at 18:57:44 Pandilex tries to stay in control with hollow threats. Come on Power Trip Pandilex, Reset the game. I dare yee :-* |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Mephistroth on 08/17/03 at 18:59:09 Matt.. grow up. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Sausage on 08/17/03 at 18:59:54 From what I heard it's just going to be a reset.... |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Roc on 08/17/03 at 19:12:05 on 08/17/03 at 16:12:49, Pandilex wrote:
I think individually is the answer. But why stop at irl money. It has been discussed among several players and why not include all things outside NM. Pandilex...Don`t talk about it. Be about it. P.S. I hate to knock your hustle. I even considered buying for irl money, but if this trend affects the whole game I`m going to have to disagree with the sale of crits, items, or gold for things outside NM. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Mia on 08/17/03 at 19:17:00 I know of alot of people ingame who will quit the game if you will go through with the reset. And I am one of them. I have worked my a§§ off to get my crits to a high lvl. One of them made it to master today. And I got to know of the reset right after I made it a master... How do you think I felt when I just made it to master and then heard that it might go back to lvl 1 again? I got really mad! I thought of how hard I have worked on it. And I have decided that I am not going to play it if the reset is going to happen. I am not going to work my a§§ off again to get that high, even how much I love this game. I don't want to get punished for something others have done. This is really bad... |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Nightmist Legend on 08/17/03 at 19:18:21 on 08/17/03 at 18:50:45, DarkPrime wrote:
Thanks for the laugh, cause no-one cheats bud. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Exor on 08/17/03 at 19:28:53 Alot of old players quit when the game was first reset.Nightmist didn't fall then because of them quitting and it won't fall now. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Zylia on 08/17/03 at 19:30:41 on 08/17/03 at 19:18:21, Nightmist Legend wrote:
Cheating in my opinion is obtaining crits/items in any way other than the way that the game allows. So technically, it could be deemed cheating. If you have a code for a game to give you infinite gold, it doesn't help you kill the boss, but it lets you obtain items and equipment that normally you'd have to spend hours trying to achieve. How is that any different? |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Despair on 08/17/03 at 19:32:50 Is the possible reset a way to stop people selling Nighmist stuff for rl money . . . or Is people selling stuff for rl money a reason to reset . . . What Im trying to get at is . . . even if people stop selling things for rl money . . . will the game be reset? |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by -Gaddy- on 08/17/03 at 19:34:08 Well hmm...what is this reset for exactly? to stop people from selling stuff for things outside the game?...how does starting over really change that at all? I don't really see the point in putting effort into a game if i know that the owner of it is just going to start the game over when people decide to do stuff he doesnt like. It isn't like you couldnt just say "no doing that" or something simple to stop players from doing stuff like selling for irl money. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Astrona on 08/17/03 at 19:35:19 It strikes me odd that I didn't see this sooner..how long has this thing been around? Anyways..After reading through this, I got to admit, I do think Nightmist could use a fresh start. I was here for the last reset, and it really helped the game. I think it'd be good for the staff to just shut Nightmist down for awhile, let the players filter out into the ones who are really dedicated to the game, filter through the forums for the ideas really needed, and update those onto the game, and throw in a lot more new areas. I think it'd be an exciting restart once again for our lil clicking world, and a good experience for all players, and the game. But hey..that's just my opinion. I'm still on pain meds from the surgery..so that might be affecting it..Blah..Took me long enough to type this..My typing speeds been cut in half from this crap o.o |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Fyxie on 08/17/03 at 19:37:01 I don't really see the point in resetting the game just because some people are buying in game things for real life $$. If you reset, it will still occur. So it isn't like it would be a real punishment for those that are doing it. What, are you gonna keep resetting the game every couple months to keep people from doing it? All that would do is make everyone quit playing as there would be no point to it any longer. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Maximus on 08/17/03 at 19:39:24 A reset ok thats fine it wouldnt bother me any at all to tell you the truth. I stayed for the first reset along time ago. I have alot of stuff in this game and if it got reset then I would just have to work my way back up for more new and better stuff. One opinion though is that maybe you should make the game to where ppl can only use one crit at a time. That would make it more interesting because you wouldnt have groups of 30 crits running around. Like someone said before anyone with 30 crits can kill something but can someone with 1 crit team up with others to kill things. The point of role playing is you control 1 crit as if you were the crit not 30. For the fact of ppl buyin things for real money thats fine with me as well. I have had lots of offers for my stuff. I just simply say no. I am one of the poorest ppl in the world probably and need money but I dont sell game stuff for money. I just think thats funny. But if reset happens then Yes I will stay around but let me know how long it will take to get back up. In the mean time I am goin to coninute lvlin cause thats what I do best. ^.^ |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Rheumatoid on 08/17/03 at 20:00:33 I agree about reset, its a good idea since we can all start over with a clean slate, besides all of the crits, weapons, gold, and stuff you've earned over the past years off training, trading, and work are just all zeros and ones. But my opinion will not affect anything, just because people train their crits and earn stuff, doesn't mean those people who pay irl money and sell items for irl money will stop doing those things, so, its basically up to the staff to decide a reset. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by RaveChyld on 08/17/03 at 20:04:35 well see a reset would just clear out the people who complain to much...i started playing about a week after the last reset and if they reset it again i will continue to play...people complain sayin if you reset the game i wont play anymore and and all this other bs and well if they reset it i would be realy happy to see half the people that say they will leave actuall do it...it does no good complaining about it cuz its not even a done deal yet..well thats my 2 cents n00bs starts the flaming me now ;D |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Astrona on 08/17/03 at 20:09:14 Pandi's reasoning for the reset is a lil off the wall in my opinion, but I can see what he means. Heh, Pandi's always right. Anyways. At least now, if they would do a reset, it would wipe out all of the cash purchased crits. And I'm sure that this is going to be strictly monitored then, and be set as a bannable offense. Either way, I think a reset would do the game a lot of good, no matter what reasoning the staff want to place behind it. People are against this because they're going to lose everything they have. Let me put it this way, you have so much now, what's going to happen once u aquire everything..ur gonna get bored. Have fun with a fresh start. It'll be interesting to see everyone running around as a newb again. Sorry if this sounds jumbled..I'm a bit tweaqued out..behold the power of pain meds..rawr.. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Aidon on 08/17/03 at 20:19:50 I think that a reset along with a 1-2 alt limit sounds good IMO. Working together and strategizing is a nice effect brought into most games, but lacking in this one. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by freebird on 08/17/03 at 20:20:06 all i see = noobs for reset bc they didnt work for nuts and the veterans that worked their asses off gonna get the nuts tossed, wtf... i dont like this, for that i wasnna pk noobs so much more, they dfont understand we were like them once, we grew tho, got stronger.... to anyone for a reset, i say ur gonna be getting pked alot more by these veterans, and btw u think bc a reset u'll be stronger??? u ever think us veterans know where to train and be arch in like a week? |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Mephistroth on 08/17/03 at 20:22:42 on 08/17/03 at 20:20:06, freebird wrote:
Stfu you d**n n00b. Maximus said hes for the reset, and he aint a n00b you d**n retard. ''us veterans''? Wtf? You suck man. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Bill on 08/17/03 at 20:28:46 on 08/17/03 at 20:20:06, freebird wrote:
lol, give me a break, so knowing where to train and getting an arch quickly makes someone a veteran? Wow i guess that might include me. ::) Oh wait, someone with alot of free time on their hands could also get arch not long after reset too. What would i know, i've only been playing a few years, guess i'm just a 'n00b' thats in favour of it. ::) |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Sausage on 08/17/03 at 20:28:55 I think it should be 3 crits allowed at a time. Freebird, ..... ::) |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by GoLdEnStAr on 08/17/03 at 20:31:44 on 08/17/03 at 20:28:55, Sausage wrote:
one thing to say... poor Jurian :P |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Diluted on 08/17/03 at 20:33:49 IF you reset the game probalby half of the players will quit. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Mephistroth on 08/17/03 at 20:35:02 Not even close. These are just idle threats trying to pursuade them not to reset it, but if they did they'd all still play. Edit: The same thing was said when they last reset the game. And guess what: More people play now than they did before. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Bill on 08/17/03 at 20:38:20 It'll be just like most people saying they're quitting normally...They come back a week or so later. :P |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Nightmist Legend on 08/17/03 at 20:39:33 on 08/17/03 at 19:30:41, Zylia wrote:
The game doesn't disallow buying items/crits for IRL $$, is doing now, didn't then. Cheating is disallowed. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Matt on 08/17/03 at 20:40:46 RESET & 2 CHARACTER LIMIT = PWNAGE |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Mephistroth on 08/17/03 at 20:42:33 Yeah. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by CPG on 08/17/03 at 20:43:13 Cheating and codes are two different things. You just press a few buttons and you have a bunch of $$ with a code. Cheating is going out of your way to exploit a bug to obtain something (most cases anyways). |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Bill on 08/17/03 at 20:43:14 on 08/17/03 at 20:40:46, Matt wrote:
/nod, that would be great. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Astrona on 08/17/03 at 20:47:11 Freebird that's a load of bull. It doesn't take being a newb to have an opinion. I've been around on this game since reset and I'm all for another reset. Course..I still am a newb *flex..cough* ANyways.. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Astrona on 08/17/03 at 20:49:24 I agree with the alt limit. I'd feel bad for Jurian..lol..But it would be a bit more realistic. And deter the whole.."What one lacks in skills..he makes up for in alts" I forget who says that..Deval I believe..Anyways..its so true.. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Mephistroth on 08/17/03 at 20:50:49 Yeah it is Deval lol, and I also agree with that.. I'd prefer 3 crits though. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Sausage on 08/17/03 at 20:53:37 on 08/17/03 at 20:28:55, Sausage wrote:
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Matt on 08/17/03 at 20:59:17 I would love a reset with a 2-3 alt limit. It would bring fun back to the game instead of the same old Pking/Trading crap. But JLH says: JLH - Nightmist says: nope, a game reset won't happen --- *sniffle* no fair |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Bill on 08/17/03 at 21:02:41 d**n. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Sausage on 08/17/03 at 21:04:18 Wait.... Did JLH JUST say this? or are you quoting him from awhile ago? |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Nikki-NY on 08/17/03 at 21:04:28 I'm against the reset.... And I'm not going to complain or flame anyone... Nor give my personal opinion on other options they might have... I just think it's sad if the reset happens for ppl like me, I'll continue atm but yes I'll be looking for a new game to play where resets don't happen like this.... With a reset, I'd still be in the arenas a year later, not worth the time I put in a game... Sorry ppl, that's my personal opinion... |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Exor on 08/17/03 at 21:04:31 if it wont happen what was the point in this thread? lol >:( |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Mephistroth on 08/17/03 at 21:06:08 Wtf.. can Pan/JLH comment on here? Some of us would like to know lol |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by CPG on 08/17/03 at 21:07:05 Good job, enforce not trading for $$ with something that you won't do. I guess it's like your sig, Pandilex. Gotta find something to stop us from doing it until you can find a permanent solution. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by JLH on 08/17/03 at 21:08:01 to tell you, that trading for irl or other game's stuff is not acceptable and will result in your account being deleted. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Sausage on 08/17/03 at 21:08:42 >:( :o ??? ::) :'( :o :-/ :( |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Direwolf on 08/17/03 at 21:13:29 <chants> "RESET RESET RESET RESET RESET RESET RESET" |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Direwolf on 08/17/03 at 21:15:57 On a side note, "Posted by: JLH Posted on: Today at 12:08pm to tell you, that trading for irl or other game's stuff is not acceptable and will result in your account being deleted. " JLH whats yoru problem? ever heard of EverQuest, the worlds #1 online rpg, People sell EQ items on E-Bay all the time and you dont ever hear anyone whining about it, or the EQ staffers threatening to ban people. STFU |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Insomnia on 08/17/03 at 21:16:06 on 08/17/03 at 20:35:02, Mephistroth wrote:
And how do you know about all this? You haven't asked me for example, how would you know? A reset would make lots of people quit, for real. Use your brains and you'll understand that people get tired of training for days when everything gets deleted every time the game founders feels like it. You don't train because it's fun (cause honestly, it sucks), you train because you want to acquire something in-game. JLH has said that 'he wouldn't sell the nightmist-server for all money in worl', what makes you think he'd risk losing half of the players when he doesn't even have to, when most players are happy anyways? |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by CPG on 08/17/03 at 21:17:48 on 08/17/03 at 21:15:57, Direwolf wrote:
This isn't EverQuest, this is Nightmist. Also, the EQ pbase is huge and it is impossible to monitor that kind of stuff. It's way easier to monitor 200 people than 2 million. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Direwolf on 08/17/03 at 21:21:53 oh thats right this is nightmist i forgot, the world of stuck up individuals, power trippers, schitzophrenic kids, cyber freaks and men who think they are gods. Indeed the EQ base is huge and NM will never be because of this kinda stuff. The Staff have a hardon for riding people and for making everyones life miserable for the acts of a few. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Roc on 08/17/03 at 21:22:04 /who Reset There you have it. And for 100K I will change the name and there will be no more Reset. And Nm can go back to being the peaceful town it once was:) |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Mephistroth on 08/17/03 at 21:22:42 on 08/17/03 at 21:16:06, Insomnia wrote:
Because the exact same thing happened last reset. Almost everyone complained about it, yet JLH/Pan still went ahead with it, and hardly anyone left. I expect the same thing would happen if it reset again. Even if people do quit then thats still fine, in the long run the game won't suffer at all. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Soap on 08/17/03 at 21:28:02 It has reset before... and prolly will reset again... I played it before as will I play it again |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by -Gaddy- on 08/17/03 at 21:29:00 3 alts would be kinda cool...i think i could run around just fine like that, but i wouldnt want to roll the crits...training 3..no probelm really..but rolling some of the crits i have now..i couldnt...it took a long time to even find them to buy...i like the idea of no reset though, if you guys want a 3 or less alt limit...only play that many..show people how well you can fight when it isnt 12 crits...i like 5 invis 4 attackers + mage, but i could see running around with 2 nice archies and a nice cleric spelling them as a fun party...but bosses would be hard, why put in a rule that says that though...just play how you want to play... |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Milenia on 08/17/03 at 21:39:02 ok, I've just thought of somit, which would make People paying Real Life money for Nightmist stuff Pointless... If it does continue, everything gets wiped, right? well if these people continue paying real life money for these objects, won't the reset mean that person has just lost how much money, to be left with nothing. Donating makes nightmist better, giving more stuff...Selling for real life money destroys nightmist, meaning less stuff, and meaning people just wasted 150$ on a csotw... ....Does anyone actually understand that? it was spur of the moment... |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by JLH on 08/17/03 at 21:40:59 that's exactly what we are trying to get across |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Artemis on 08/17/03 at 21:41:08 Ok it went from a reset to an alt rule...lol. No need for an alt rule, since JLH has already put his effort into fixing it for the time being (well sorta.. waiting for a new part that was bugged when he bought it i think?) and then alts wont be be an issue.. this is a fantasy game, some things should stay un-realistic... being too real just isn't any fun. I still say go p2p, then all of those who claim they think a reset is so appropriate won't even bother playing because either they ; are complete 'snerts', never play enough to bother, have wasted all their gametime chatting with nothing worth paying for, or simply aren't any good at it (and yes i mean those with all the items too, great items do not make you a great player.) It would also solve all the jerks who log on just to be childish, and might somehow even discontinue the need to sell/buy nightmist materials for IRL cash. I know if i'm paying 10-20$/mo. i'm not going to go selling it for a few bucks. I found it easier to get paid IRL then it was to spend time collecting the items/crits i own ingame. Not trying to pick anyones side, but if you don't see why buying/selling nm stuff for IRL cash is a problem then here's why. I did some research..lol Woohoo lets see here.. so many ways it is explained, and remember that you agreed to this BEFORE you installed and started playing the game so you also agreed that you are held responcible for your own actions and its not their fault if your stupidity gets your whole account deleted. END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT 1. Use License. ALL people involved in making the Program ("Licensors") hereby grant, and by installing the Program you thereby accept, a limited, non-exclusive license and right to install and use one (1) copy of the Program for your use on either a home, business or portable computer. The Program has a multi-player capability that allows users to utilize the Program over the Internet. Use of the Program over the internet is subject to your acceptance of the Product's Online Terms of Use Agreement. The Licensors reserve the right to update, modify or change the Product's Online Terms of Use Agreement at any time. The Program is licensed not sold. Your license confers no title or ownership in the Program. (In other words the characters do not belong to you in any way shape or form, that includes well, everything to do with nm..) C. You are entitled to use the Program for your own use, but you are not be entitled to: (i) sell or grant a security interest in or transfer reproductions of the Program to other parties in any way, nor to rent, lease or license the Program to others without Licensor's prior written consent; etc etc.. http://www.nightmist-online.co.uk/nmsite/nmeula.html have a ball. If your doing this your breaking every rule from the start heh. Id say if you got your crits deleted it's because JLH is just that nice. edit: yes i know my post was late, just pointing out to the smart guys how real this issue can get and its not worth the risk lol |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by JLH on 08/17/03 at 21:44:01 i'm way to nice |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by GoLdEnStAr on 08/17/03 at 21:44:37 and so modest too :P |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Vodka on 08/17/03 at 21:45:39 on 08/17/03 at 17:50:22, Nikki-NY wrote:
I fully agree with you, couldn't of said it better myself. I've been around for quite some time.. and yet only have so many arches, quite a bit of gold.. and a few itmes. I don't even buy crits in-game (only once I have).. let alone would I waste my rl money on buying.. crits.. items and such. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Prophet on 08/17/03 at 21:45:57 Pandi just had another one of his control freak moments ;) |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by JLH on 08/17/03 at 21:46:39 pandilex has my full support |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Prophet on 08/17/03 at 21:47:51 full support or not...who was the one who came up with the idea? |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Prophet on 08/17/03 at 21:49:08 Pandi is power mad though! |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Dwaerkyn on 08/17/03 at 21:53:16 One rotten apple spoils the whole barrel. (another saying) I'd play again if there were a game reset, those are great fun! It would ruin the hard work some people have done though. If you erased accounts, you might get a BAD case of loitering..... |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Artemis on 08/17/03 at 21:58:20 too late.. almost all players who've been playing over a year have nothing because all they do it sit and chat, and 'loiter' all day. then blame their newbness on TR, Staff, lag.. you name it lol |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Bill on 08/17/03 at 22:01:51 Well, not everyone feels like pking all the time and what's there to do when you have a few arch's and a fair bit of gold. Oh yeah, TR stop us training, don't flatter yourselves lol. ::) Edit: Personally, the reason i don't train anymore is i simply can't be bothered most of the time. Sure i do sometimes, when i feel like it or when there's a new class, but i'm too lazy to train most of the time. :) |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Artemis on 08/17/03 at 22:11:39 Not trying to flatter myself, i find it rather annoying actually because it's just another excuse to provoke JLH into making the game easier for people who don't play it the way it was made to play. Basicly players use any excuse other than "I'm special, rules dont apply here, give give give!" to justify their lazyness. As if the free game isn't enough already heh. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Rattlesnake on 08/17/03 at 22:12:26 I would probably cry if there was a reset. I've only been playing a little more than a year but I would seriously cry if I lost my stuff. I hate starting over. What's mine is mine. Please don't reset the whole game. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Bill on 08/17/03 at 22:15:02 on 08/17/03 at 22:12:26, Rattlesnake wrote:
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Rattlesnake on 08/17/03 at 22:17:00 I meant the items and characters. JLH owns the game. Sure he created the items but he doesn't own the actual items. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Bill on 08/17/03 at 22:20:26 The items are pieces of data or whatever, on JLH's computer, so technically he does own them i think. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by JLH on 08/17/03 at 22:25:30 all your items are belong to us |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Exor on 08/17/03 at 22:26:20 LMAO |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Bill on 08/17/03 at 22:31:54 lol :P |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Mephistroth on 08/17/03 at 22:34:49 rofl |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Sausage on 08/17/03 at 22:40:44 Haha |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by JLH on 08/17/03 at 22:51:54 after 8 topics of heated 'debate' some more interesting things can be reviewed here http://www.nightmist-online.co.uk/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.pl?board=OffTopic;action=display;num=1061154563 |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Argus on 08/17/03 at 23:28:56 What I find funny is that the people who complain the most about people buying things for money...are the people who were GIVEN items for free because a person quit the game and this is the only reason that person is any good. If you ask me buying stuff for $$ is more respectable than being handed things for nothing just because you are a kiss ass? |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Artemis on 08/17/03 at 23:34:14 and who all fits under those exact descriptions might i ask? And maybe the same thing should apply to people who try to steal from every person they have ever shared with. cough lol please indulge me! edit: typo :-X |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Argus on 08/17/03 at 23:35:55 Well if you want to go there Jess it applies mostly to you. And please, tell me what I have stolen? |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Sera on 08/17/03 at 23:42:23 Let's keep this on topic people. This is not about who got what from whom...either by it being given...or by it being taken. Please take it elsewhere (not on the forum btw). |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Artemis on 08/17/03 at 23:42:55 K.. For 1. I never had a problem with morons who wasted their cash to buy nightmist material, i never once complained, i simply showed them what the rules were. 2. Matt and Pete gave me their stuff, sure .. and I returned it to them more than 6 months later when they changed their mind and asked for it back. Oh and about 2 months ago Pete messeged me on aim begging me to return it once again just so that him and matt can break the same rules that apply here, and sell it all for ROK rubbish. I don't like indian givers. And I dont like ROK. My exact reply was "yeah right". 3. Rick.. wether you have successfully stolen from, or legally stolen from within game rules, it doesn't make any of it morally correct. And don't ask for names, because I don't think I have enough fingers and toes to count. Nice try though.... :P yeah i know kinda/sorta off topic but it looks like this thread has died anyway wouldn't you think...lol |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Argus on 08/17/03 at 23:46:48 on 08/17/03 at 23:42:55, Artemis wrote:
Exactly my point. You have nothing to say because I haven't stolen crap. Only way to make things fair is to have a reset. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Sera on 08/17/03 at 23:47:51 on 08/17/03 at 23:42:55, Artemis wrote:
Dead or not... still no need to take it off topic. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Epic on 08/18/03 at 01:06:07 Jess, you didnt just say you gave the nuts back did you? O and jesus christ "keep this on topic" "keep this on topic or bring it somewhere else (not on forum)" "k guys keep it on topic" jesus christ slow down alittle.... |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Melfice on 08/18/03 at 01:23:10 Ok peole who trade money for crits on nightmist... fair enuf, their money to be wasted. But how does this affect us? It's not like more characters are appearing to challenge us, just the same crits are changing hands. The only thing to be affected is people wallets. There should not be a reset because of this. There should be a reset anyway though! I think a reset will really change things for the better and yes obviously some for the worse. I'm not saying this because i don't have the best stuff in the game but the fact that all people do now is... well nothing. There are loads of people with loads of archies and they don't want any more archies so they arn't gonna train. They just buy and sell. A reset will be a whole new start. People might quit... good there are too many people in the game anyway lol. A reset would be a major event that would cause nightmist to change. It may just end up being the same again after a matte of time, or it might change... people who wasn't so good might end up the best, people who was good might jstu quit. Clans we've never heard of will appear as top ranked. Anyway i'm just rambling on, basically i want a reset, it would be fun, a challenge, something to do. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Artemis on 08/18/03 at 01:34:12 Want a reset? Use the website....lol. Its quicker, easier, and just as affective. Why should everyone have to suffer just because a handful of careless players decided to ignore the rules? last time i checked when someone broke the rules only they got punished not the whole game...thats not moral. Not to you, not to the newbs who havent reached expert yet, not to anyone. It isnt sane...lol /t Epic ya i gave them back after being given everything and going 6 months with not even a single 'hi' from them, and would have given them back a second time if they hadn't said they would trade it for rok junk |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Melfice on 08/18/03 at 01:46:27 ::) It's not a challenge for myself that i want. It's a challenge for the game. Something new for the game to go through. At the moment the game has nothing new, nothing new happens, a new class pacifist came out and now it's nothing, everyone has one, no big deal. The game is stuck, nothing is happening. Yes everyone still plays but this would give so much more bite to the game. It would be so fresh. A lot of people have said, it's not the game that makes it so addictive, but the people. Everyone starting again will make a different game, everyone will have to learn things as new, the value of things will be so confusing, people would have a challenge getting the first arch of a class, the first halberd, the first such and such. Things in general will not have changed, the people are still there, the game is still there. We won't have lost any actual power. As we will all be the most powerful on the game, and the people who are good now will be good again because they have the skill and the dedication to be what it is. Imo the fun part of games, is working for everything. If you had everything in the game, what is left to do. All the work and fun you have training with people, killing bosses, that's what makes the game a game. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Artemis on 08/18/03 at 01:56:32 Ive done just about everything a player would want to do, i admit i was given 3 nice items to top it off, but even now i can still find something to do. The game is at a hault for a reason i can't imagine...lots of areas on the way though so just be a lil patient, 2 of them are mine.. i think they are decent just waiting to be approved for opening...there's more comming, u just gotta give jlh some time he has lots of work on the game he's trying to cram in...lol Anyway i'm done you guys can pray for a reset if you really want one that bad.. but i promise it won't help much, in the end it will be the same as it is now. Power hungry and survival of the "fittest" or whatever. lol |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Melfice on 08/18/03 at 02:02:09 Ah screw it all lets just go p2p :D |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Saken on 08/18/03 at 02:10:56 I've been playing this game for almost a year now...i might not be experienced as others but i dont see why the game should be reset.. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Ahala on 08/18/03 at 03:16:28 First of all I'd like to give my opinion on everything. Who cares....JLH said only those doing the deed will be punished. Fair enough. Someone mentioned new areas opening up....Even Better. Everyone that wants a reset..."to try something new"....go buy a Nintendo and a couple games or something. I love this game....A LOT...Made lots of friends...run a fairly successful clan...However....I work full time...and have two children. That requires a lot of time...after playing for 10 months...I still dont have any arch's (have in the past). That doesnt bother me...i do what i can. But to have a reset done would be VERY BAD for me (and of course this isMY opinion..not yours). Id start all over and be nothing for ages....im not 13 and have the summer off...and can come home from school, skip out on my howework and play NM. Other things come first. PRIORITIES. We all have them (obviously some more than others). I cant sit here and make an arch in a week....let alone 3 months...i just dont have the time. So reset =bad.....new areas=great idea and cant wait for it. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by dognapot on 08/18/03 at 04:05:23 ok, everyone, listen: shut up. it seems that everytime someone says 'reset' everyone races to chime in with thier "i worked so hard blah blah blah". not only is that frighteningly pavlovian, but it's waste of everyone's time. if you worked so hard for your crits, and you want to keep them then shut up, then stop counting imaginary dollars when you 'work hard for your crits'. real simple. all it takes is not selling your crits for national currencies. think we can do that? what pandilex is wanting here is not unreasonable and it is in his best interest to take care of this now before he has to start checking ebay for nightmist items and tracking you knuckleheads down. this is a real game, this isn't outwar or progress quest where there isn't any real gameplay. what pandilex is trying to stop is other people selling pieces of the game that he and JLH made. once again, not unreasonable, especially when considering that the game is free. so it's not a big pissy "no that's unfair" issue here. just quit being retards. |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Wise_Crack on 08/18/03 at 19:06:03 Ah...money...money...money.... all of these money....it's best to share them to some of the more productive programs...like... Spare some to donate to Jlh/pandilex poor guys haven't eaten decent meals.... ;D |
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Title: Re: Possible Game Reset Post by Bobbity on 08/18/03 at 19:10:09 Wasn't this topic locked? Also, I've changed my mind, if you wanna spend money on a text game, buy a custom pic with it :D |
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