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Title: Staff not being bothered/not comeing?? Post by Genocide on 08/02/03 at 09:56:29 ok, last night i did a trade without staff, you lot are probably sayin, "ur stupid then" BUT! me and the person i was trading with, yelled for staff, a few times, and staff did not come, dispite them being online. I did the trade without staff there (because they could not come) and oh what a suprise, the person i was trading with lied about the stats, and instead of having a 5stat like he said, i ended up with a 4stat crit, with 13 wisdom. and now, he wont trade back this would never have happened, if staff had of come, it would have been ok if they had yelled back sayin something like "hold on a second Genocide, we are busy rite now, be with you in a second" then fair enuf i would of waited, but when they said nothing, and didnt come, and i was ripped, i was fairly annoyed just say that.! EDIT: Oh sorry i forgot, seing as stealing in nightmist is now a part of the game, maybe u are letting this happen aswell? |
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Title: Re: Staff not being bothered/not comeing?? Post by Exor on 08/02/03 at 10:04:05 Um..Was there staff online at the time if you did /who?If not then theres your answer.Staff have lives believe it or not.They aren't on 24/7 lol |
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Title: Re: Staff not being bothered/not comeing?? Post by Jurian on 08/02/03 at 10:31:07 on 08/02/03 at 09:56:29, Genocide wrote:
just wait till jlh get the automated trading system in. |
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Title: Re: Staff not being bothered/not comeing?? Post by Genocide on 08/02/03 at 11:30:15 ya there was staff on at the time i no this becase 1. a Mosh had just finished the second we paged them, and 2. i got quite annoyed wen i was ripped so i yelled sumet i shudnt of and i got banned so there must have been staff on to ban me! u think i dont know staff have lives but when they are actually online and just ignore me! |
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Title: Re: Staff not being bothered/not comeing?? Post by Jurian on 08/02/03 at 12:01:59 well it's stil lyour fault for not deeling with staff around but i do agree that it would be nice if staff would jsut let you know they were bussy and you have to wait for a while :D |
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Title: Re: Staff not being bothered/not comeing?? Post by Zylia on 08/02/03 at 13:24:06 Patience is a virtue :) |
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Title: Re: Staff not being bothered/not comeing?? Post by Genocide on 08/02/03 at 14:47:16 Ok, its my fault so i aint gonna complain, but it also staff fault, i know that staff aint bein paid for nothing so they dont hve to do nethin in theory, but a little manners never went a miss [staff] Yells from (Hidden): hold on one second Genocide, i am busy rite now. i ae never herd a staff tell some1 when they are busy, they just ignoed me. |
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Title: Re: Staff not being bothered/not comeing?? Post by Zephie on 08/02/03 at 15:23:13 Genocide, you said the reason you knew staff was on is because you started swearing a couple of minutes after the trade and JLH banned you. How do you know he didn't just log on right then? |
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Title: Re: Staff not being bothered/not comeing?? Post by Dan on 08/02/03 at 15:26:04 on 08/02/03 at 11:30:15, Genocide wrote:
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Title: Re: Staff not being bothered/not comeing?? Post by ChaosHound on 08/02/03 at 15:29:03 In staff defense they dont have to stay on to run the mosh, just be on to start one. |
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Title: Re: Staff not being bothered/not comeing?? Post by Zephie on 08/02/03 at 15:30:13 I spoke to Genocide in game and he said there was no staff when he did /? so, I stand by my comment. |
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Title: Re: Staff not being bothered/not comeing?? Post by Dan on 08/02/03 at 15:37:40 That was just the other reason he gave, I missed it the first time over, only figured she may have as well. As far as doing a /? that doesn't mean a thing anymore. I was in the Barracks last week, Pandilex was running arround, and yet when I did a /? there was no staff on. Having +I is a nice thing, but sometimes it isn't used properly. |
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Title: Re: Staff not being bothered/not comeing?? Post by Lurch on 08/02/03 at 16:21:00 The thing i never understode, is i have seen several time that i have seen staff on there crit hanging out at southgate or makeing yells. Yet when i do a /? no staff is on, and when i try to yell for a little help i got none. |
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Title: Re: Staff not being bothered/not comeing?? Post by ChaosHound on 08/02/03 at 17:02:49 Staff have this uncanny ability to cloak themselves so they cant be seen. |
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Title: Re: Staff not being bothered/not comeing?? Post by Lady_Maha on 08/02/03 at 17:23:49 Currently there aren't enough staff members. Although JLH says no new staff will be hired because of an automatic trading system being put in soon, I still see flaws with not having enough staff. People who curse openly now get turnipy, when you warn them about language they laugh and say "there's no staff online anyway" and thieves abuse the lack of enough staff for cheating. The few staff members left have plenty of work to do, with the constant demands for moshes, developing their areas, watching trades and investigating complaints about misbehaving children. I am sure that no staffer purposely ignores people. Along with the cloaking they have the option to turn off receiving yells, and that for a good reason. If a staff member is in the middle of developing an area or running a mosh, seeing the yells from all the people in the game seriously can disturb the work they are doing. JLH may not think it neccessary to hire more staff, and once the automated trading system is put in, it may be true, but until this happens, I seriously think that more staff is needed, simply so the current staffers don't get overworked. There is no way that 6 people can be on 24/7, run moshes, make areas, monitor trades and keep the chat clean all at the same time. |
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Title: Re: Staff not being bothered/not comeing?? Post by Zylia on 08/02/03 at 18:39:43 More isn't always better. And even if more staff were hired.. once the trading system is in place that staff member wont be needed anymore. I don't think they need any more staff. People just need to realize that they need to wait for staff to come online. If people had just a little more patience and would hold off on a trade I'm sure that there would be a lot less complaints about it. Accusing staff of ignoring players is bs though. If they are busy, they are busy. They're trying to further the game for us all and no one is being appreciative of that effort anymore. Maybe until the trading system is in place, staff should uncloak just a bit more. Maybe even designate shifts for monitoring trades or something. The staff range in their timezones and maybe if they all announced when they will be available (and uncloak during this time) it would help make trading more efficient and safer. It might be more difficult, but if the trading system is in progress, it wouldn't hurt for a little extra effort by the current staff to aid this way until the system is ready. |
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Title: Re: Staff not being bothered/not comeing?? Post by KasumiFire on 08/02/03 at 18:42:17 It seems that preventing stealing would help the game more than an area right now. |
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Title: Re: Staff not being bothered/not comeing?? Post by Zylia on 08/02/03 at 18:44:26 Well they weren't hired as an 'Area Developer' in order to mostly monitor trades. ::) |
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Title: Re: Staff not being bothered/not comeing?? Post by Nikki-NY on 08/02/03 at 19:48:48 Particular staff do bother & have time, when their using their power to aid their alts in game... The inccident Direwolf is talking about happened to me... I was on my alt Vixen in the museum when it happened & had cast Justice zone to protect someone, while he was AFK in the bathroom... this is the pages I got... Kalypso Pages You from (Hidden): move off the square Paged User Kalypso: not so you can pk him Kalypso Pages You from (Hidden): ok then i have crits on 2nd floor museum and i will steal all your monster kills Kalypso Pages You from (Hidden): so you have 2 choices a) sit there like a lump and be useless and have me log on and not let u train in peace of b) move off the square and i will let u train as long as u like (( During these pages to me I was in msn with the person who's crits i was protecting & not replying to her pages)) Kalypso Pages You from (Hidden): move off vixen Kalypso Pages You from (Hidden): i'm not bluffing lol Paged User Kalypso: and i'm scared? After this my mama bar was depleted & this is what the screen showed; You are out of mana, the Justice Zone has expired, players can now be attacked here! And as I clicked on mana to fill it, it vanished as quickly, even the mana I got from the person I was protecting.. after offer tribute in the total of over 3k to keep it filled & going to JLH's msn to complain did it stop..... I went to JLH' msn ( my msn logs) > ~ Angel Eyes ~ says: > it sucks when Kalypso depletes my mana to stop justice zone to get her own > way > JLH says: > how she deplete it? > ~ Angel Eyes ~ says: > it dissappeared when i refused to move > ~ Angel Eyes ~ says: > check it just happened, i know you can > JLH says: > some weapons can get mana from a target > ~ Angel Eyes ~ says: > she wasn't there Jonathan just in page > ~ Angel Eyes ~ says: > Kalypso Pages You from (Hidden): so you have 2 choices a) sit there like a > lump and be useless and have me log on and not let u train in peace of b) > move off the square and i will let u train as long as u like > ~ Angel Eyes ~ says: > wanna see the rest? > JLH says: > who are you in game? > ~ Angel Eyes ~ says: > atm? Vixen in the museum > so what are you acusing her of? > ~ Angel Eyes ~ says: > using her staff positin to delete my mana so the justice zone was gone > JLH says: > she can't do that > JLH says: > /who zephie > JLH says: > she's not been on for about 11 hours At that point I talked to my brother ( Oz ) & he told me to do a /who on both crits Kalypso logged on Zephie within 4 minutes, I showed this to JLH before I closed msn with him.. So, particular staff is on, just to busy harrassing players not of her liking... But like they say, " there's always a bad apple in every bunch.." P.S. I'll proably get banned for life, if I do, remember I wuvs yous all even the bad staff..... |
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Title: Re: Staff not being bothered/not comeing?? Post by Nightmist Legend on 08/02/03 at 19:55:32 :o :o :o Jen you naughty girl!!!! |
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Title: Re: Staff not being bothered/not comeing?? Post by Mystick on 08/02/03 at 19:58:50 Sis I know what happened was unfair. It was unfair to the extent to even know that this ops person is capable to doing it to anyone she desires just as she did it to you. Remember the Crystal Giant event? The cleric that just "happened" to be able to log on and off at the Crystal Giant even though the rest of us when we're logged off get tossed back at the local? Funny how when it's a staffer, they can do as they please...even defy the rules set forth by the creators in order to advance either themselves or her clan. Interesting eh? |
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Title: Re: Staff not being bothered/not comeing?? Post by Roc on 08/02/03 at 21:08:13 Folks can I please just be rude for 1 sec. STFU!!! There are 8 staff currently in game. Of those I would only exspect 6 of those to oversee trades. JLH is doing what he does in programing the game that you all take the time to point out how lame you think it is and how slow he is at adding things. Pandilex I'm sure is doing his thing to contribute.Oracle is on Vacation, Havanor's computer is still trashed. So that leaves 4 NM staff members to oversee all the boowhoing that goes on in the game. And just because your impatient you think they should wipe your ass first. This is a free game. Be a little more patient and try to understand that staff can`t be 20 places at once. If they are avalible to oversee trades they will be uncloaked, if not you will have to wait. I concidered using the arguement that we needed more staff, but honestly as I look over the forums and talk with players ingame I just don`t see anyone worthy enough. 25% of the players are crying over something, 25% are trying to rip the ones off that are crying, 25% are spending to much time on the forums making thread after thread about the ones who are stealing from the crybabies and they other 25% is actually playing this game. Sit back and enjoy the game. If you can`t make a trade with staff the very instance you want to then just tell the other person "Hey I`m gonna have to get back to ya when that sexy Zephie is on. Nothing personal buddy, just following the rules" If ya miss a trade as a result then is just wasn`t ment to be. Peace fools. That`s my 2 cents |
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Title: Re: Staff not being bothered/not comeing?? Post by Sera on 08/02/03 at 21:25:36 Well this thread has managed to turn from a discussion into yet another all out "trashing the staff of NM" thread. If you have problems with staff...memo or email JLH or Pandilex. |
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