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(Message started by: VampyreDarla on 07/16/03 at 01:05:06)

Title: What about the mp?
Post by VampyreDarla on 07/16/03 at 01:05:06
Well now that the hp has been fixed the mp gains have also been fixed... except, what about the mp that was lost?? will it be added on as the hp was??  Or has no one even noticed this.. -.-\

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by InsaneNinjaPhreak on 07/16/03 at 01:24:00
Fix teh mp too!!! if it hasnt been fixed with the hp it should be fixed now as well, for it is as bad as the lost hp.

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by JLH on 07/16/03 at 01:25:06
i was under the impression that mana was fine

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by VampyreDarla on 07/16/03 at 01:28:17
Well I'm not certain if the rest of the mp is fine... but elf druids with 20wis have been getting 8mp when they should be getting 9mp.  When the hp was fixed this was fixed too, however there are many out there lacking mp.

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by -Gaddy- on 07/16/03 at 01:29:56
Ya..i was wondering..should my dwarf cleric with 18 wis be able to get any mana other than 9s? cause people were saying ya..but umm..he hasnt...9s all the way though lvl 24..which i find is pretty much just fine mana for me..

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by JLH on 07/16/03 at 01:35:48
mana does not vary much when levelling up apart from the mage.

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by VampyreDarla on 07/16/03 at 02:19:28
Proof
Nymph- lvl 21 - 199mp (All 9mp gains and one 8 from the bug)
Fuse- lvl 23 - 217mp (All 9mp gains and one 8 from the bug)
  vs.
Wisdom- lvl 21 - 180mp (All 8mp gains from the bug)
Wax- lvl 19 - 164mp (All 8mp gains from the bug)

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by Alicia on 07/16/03 at 13:32:55
You have advanced to level 10, gained 12hp and 1mp

And that was my FIGHTER !!!!

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by Ender on 07/16/03 at 13:50:42
My Ranger has done the same.

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by Lady_Maha on 07/16/03 at 14:12:59
Yay! Mana for fighters and rangers!  ;)

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by Matt on 07/16/03 at 14:31:19
I wonder if that is a bug at all. I remember when Attribute Points were getting planned, fighters were going to be able to train a small healing spell. It would cost 1 mana and heal some amount I forgot. Pretty low though. oh, also training it made your hp go like 10 lower or something *shrug* i forgot it was a long time ago.

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by Oracle on 07/16/03 at 17:18:37
Something makes me think it was just a bug with JLH editing users HP and stuff but time will tell :)

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by -Gaddy- on 07/17/03 at 17:16:42
I've gotta bump this...cause on the topic of mana having been down

You have increased to level 25, gained 11 hp and gained 10 mana points.

Same dwarf cleric that before the bug had a max gain of 9s (only got 9s for that matter..no 8s or 10s)....hp bug also wouldn't let me get that 11..this was def. a perfect gain for him  ;D  i dunno that this means that there was a mana bug also...i guess 10 mana gain could just be..very very rare...i knew it seemed odd to me that they could only get 9s though.

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by -=ToM=- on 07/17/03 at 19:13:27
well if 10 is max for a dwarf thn my elf has been getting 10 up with 20 wis hmm i thought tht was perfect but its the same as a dwarf heh with 2 more wis doesnt make sence maybe mana was bugged a bit aswell

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by VampyreDarla on 07/17/03 at 19:47:57
Wow ok now mp is really messed...  why?  a human (19wis), halfing (18wis), and elf druid(20wis) are getting 10mp now...
Heh not that im complaining ^.~ but before all these bugs elves got 9mp, halfings 8mp, and i think humans 8/9mp...
Also during the bug elf druids got 8mp... i believe halfings still got their 8mp and I am unsure of humans...
(Obviously all the mp I am certain of that is screwed is druids... perhaps others can enlighten us on any problems in other classes...)

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by Pile on 07/17/03 at 19:54:28
If it helps human druids always used to get 8mp.

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by Wolfvirus81 on 07/18/03 at 03:36:03
My level 21 Druid is named, Wisdom his stats are, 18 17 19 18 20 21, 200hp , (180ma)..

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by Cupcake on 07/18/03 at 14:07:58
for whats its worth, i know human palis always got 10mp with 19wis all the time, during bug and before

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by AlliedAssault on 07/18/03 at 16:12:37
I think what is being said here is not that the mp gained at level is messed up now. Whats being said is that during the bug, when people would level their characters the mp gain was unusually low. Like now how people are gaining 10-11 mps on theirs druids and clerics. During the bug if you got a max of 9 mp you were lucky. It seems like during the bug you got -2 mp per level up compared to what you usually gained.

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by VampyreDarla on 07/18/03 at 18:35:00
No no >.<!  that's not what I've been ranting about for the past... very long time.  

This applies to druids only as far as I know of. And these mp gains are for druids w/perfect wis for the race...

Before Bug: Elves- 9mp  Halfings- 8mp Humans- 8mp
During Bug: Elves- 8mp Halfings- 8mp? Humans- 8mp?
Currently:  Elves- 10mp Halfings- 10mp Humans- 10mp

Edit: Now call me crazy but it doesn't exactly make sense to me that Elves with 20wis, Halflings with 18wis, and Humans with 19wis would all get the same mp gains...

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by -Gaddy- on 07/18/03 at 18:44:59
Darla you are crazy...but also very right, hope they fix all this mix up...good luck druid queeny.
-Gaddy

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by VampyreDarla on 07/18/03 at 21:28:39
In case anyone is still not convinced... today I saw an elf druid with 19wis who had gotten all 10s for mp gain.  :o

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by KasumiFire on 07/21/03 at 21:31:53
Alright, finally got the time to post!

Vampyre here is very right. Why all the sudden do these races get all the same mana gains from being completely different? I would also like to point out that as it stands, my Druid is short 42 MP in consideration of these new gains. That there is a considerable amount. I urge JLH and Pandilex to reconsider the mana gains of the races according to wisdom.

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by Outsider on 07/21/03 at 21:34:09
Just wanted to add, my halfling has gotten nothing but 10's, hes lvl 19 now

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by Game Over - SykoNinjaPhreak on 07/26/03 at 04:24:34
dude I'm gettin ripped off yo, my lvl 17 4 stat elf druid (intel an char are off) is gettin crap mp and nuts, you neeed to do somethin bout this and this was during the hp bug, I haven't lvl'ed it since then

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by Mip on 07/29/03 at 00:54:55
nobody has yet mentioned mages  :'(

my mage has gotten 11 or 12 mp every level from around lvl 5-26 and 7 hp every level so far...
its stats are 16 (21 19 18 20) 17 :(
my friend's mage who's stats are 15 (21 19 18 20) 18 has been getting 8 hp and 13-14 mp every level so far (level 18.)

...and i'm not sure if it's a bugs fault or if i'm just EXTREMELY unlucky

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by -Gaddy- on 07/29/03 at 11:46:25
My dwarf cleric could only get 9 mp (lvl 1-24 during bug), its hp was fixed, but its mana is now going 10 per lvl, on 25 and 26 it got 10 mana, it cannot get 300 mana+ even with 10s for the rest of its lvls and 20 at arch, but other dwarf clerics have 325+ mana, if mana doesnt change very much, why do they avg. 1 mana more per lvl than my 5 stat (12 int) dwarf cleric that was lvled mostly during the bug?  I think it is pretty obvious that the bug made mana lower (all mana).

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by KasumiFire on 07/29/03 at 16:14:42
And now mana is ridiculously high and messed up. Classes with 18 wis getting the same mp as classes with 20 wis. Not to mention that 95% of crits are getting screwed over because of this. I've spent a lot of time leveling my crits. Now I find out that everything is getting better HP and MP. Now my crits are lacking by around 20 HP and 40 MP. Ridiculous...

Title: Re: What about the mp?
Post by Alkwilyeaon on 07/29/03 at 21:36:01
a few weeks ago i was getting 7s and 8s for my Elf druid MP which had 19 wis  :'(


when i got to leveling him again this week, he's been getting 10's...  ???



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