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(Message started by: King o Sausage on 06/07/03 at 21:28:50)
Title: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by King o Sausage on 06/07/03 at 21:28:50
Is the testing going to take like an hour or is it more likely to take quite some time?
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Nocturnal on 06/07/03 at 21:32:31
Hope it doesn't end up like the Attribute Points, No news for ages and eventually gets cancelled.  ;D
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Prophet on 06/07/03 at 21:34:33
I don't see the point in putting them in yet if they won't be ready within a few hours...just causes stuff like this for no reason.
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Iria on 06/07/03 at 21:35:28
Pacifist is definitely the coolest class. I hope they are put in fairly soon.

Edit: Need to ask a question. What about monsters attacking the Pacifist? It can be attacked but it can't attack back?
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Bill on 06/07/03 at 21:39:19
I'm guessing monsters would attack them or that would be too easy and i also assume the only stats they would need are dex, con, wis and char?
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Nocturnal on 06/07/03 at 21:39:30

on 06/07/03 at 21:35:28, Iria wrote:
Pacifist is definitely the coolest class. I hope they are put in fairly soon.


Yeah, Finally Nightmist has it's own Hippy Class. Just what we needed after the Nudist/Berserker Class.  ;)
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Prophet on 06/07/03 at 21:41:24
They heal undead, but um, normal monsters, no idea. Probs wont attack them, as its good vs good.
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by JLH on 06/07/03 at 21:44:09
the reason the box is on the roller now is so that no new client has to be released when the pacifist class is ready. i've spoken to pandilex, and he says 2 weeks tops. all that has to be done is balance it as best as possible given the type of character the pacifist is.
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Iria on 06/07/03 at 21:44:16
I hope that the addition of Pacifists will lead to more single-play classes.
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Fire Starter on 06/07/03 at 21:49:19
What i dont get is why pacifist cant join party sounds kinda dumb to me
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Iria on 06/07/03 at 21:51:16
Parties get together for the common goal of destroying monsters or foes. Why would the Pacifist take part in this? If you don't party for that reason, your Pacifist could get a little exercise.
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Fire Starter on 06/07/03 at 21:54:20
ya i understand that but what if say a noob rolls one and and dont know where some place is or doesnt know how to get to Bt to lvl up then what
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by King o Sausage on 06/07/03 at 21:55:28
I don't see how not knowing anything has to do with partying....


Edit: Nevermind. Stupid "Ferry Parties"... Looks like the nOObs will have to do some exploring. Either on NM or on the internet to find map sites...
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Fire Starter on 06/07/03 at 21:55:30
and JLH said they could attacke the undead so they should be able to party to go do so
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Nocturnal on 06/07/03 at 21:56:16
If they don't know where something is then they could *Gasp, EXPLORE. Or get a map!
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Iria on 06/07/03 at 21:56:26
Then you learn. This game isn't about getting people to do everything for you. I know I learned the majority of what I know by myself. Newbs these days are just too lazy.
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Nocturnal on 06/07/03 at 21:57:50

on 06/07/03 at 21:56:26, Iria wrote:
Newbs these days are just too lazy.

I agree, It's like buying Final Fantasy and getting a Guide for it at the same time.....
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by alone on 06/07/03 at 22:00:45
Wait wait wait.. People had a go at me for telling Bobble to go out and find something himself... And now, you're all saying, yeah, they are too lazy?

Sure, i may have been slightly ruder in the way i said it, but hey.
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Fire Starter on 06/07/03 at 22:03:19
ya but what about attacking the undead
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by King o Sausage on 06/07/03 at 22:04:04
You can't attack anything. Only heal the undead for EXP.
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by InsaneNinjaPhreak on 06/07/03 at 22:22:40
Just a minor question, will they be able to go into the barrier forest/necro tower? since they must be of high religious status? and one other thing, omfg! I'll finally be able to get me some cheesecake, thank you so much JLH or Pandi whos ever idea it was to give them to randomly make cheesecake. I can see why my in game cheese post is no longer needed ^__^
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Rattlesnake on 06/08/03 at 00:21:15
cheesecake isn't exactly the same as cheese...
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Acidinia on 06/08/03 at 01:10:58
take ure passifist to the demonic solders heal it for 1 damge and get like 5 k exp cuz they give like 100 exp i think
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Stotic on 06/08/03 at 01:24:13
All's I can say, awesome update.  AND LONG!  It's going to take awhile to get used to the new commands.
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Iria on 06/08/03 at 01:32:57

on 06/07/03 at 22:00:45, alone wrote:
Wait wait wait.. People had a go at me for telling Bobble to go out and find something himself... And now, you're all saying, yeah, they are too lazy?

Sure, i may have been slightly ruder in the way i said it, but hey.


Some people on the forums are just mean and lack common sense. Although the two situations you are comparing are very different, I understand where you're coming from.



on 06/08/03 at 01:10:58, Acidinia wrote:
take ure passifist to the demonic solders heal it for 1 damge and get like 5 k exp cuz they give like 100 exp i think


Demonic Soldiers give 50 xp/ppd. You would not get 50*50 (2500) xp for each point of damage you do. It says on the update that this is for healing _players_ and that you would get 50*amount you healed for. So you heal someone for 50 points and you get 2500 xp.
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Alicia on 06/08/03 at 03:59:31
So we might finally see the skeletal warriors?
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Ashton on 06/08/03 at 07:26:22
I have a small question because either it wasn't stated clearly enough or I just missed it, but you are damaged by attacking a pacifist, do you and the pacifist both take damage? or is the pacifist immune to the attacks and they are simply repelled to yourself? just curious
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Bobbity on 06/08/03 at 07:59:32
Pacifists prolly aren't immune to attacks. Does the damaging yourself part apply to monsters aswell?
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Jurian on 06/08/03 at 08:18:18
ok just wondering (didn't read all replies) :d they are like clerics but can't be attacked wouldn't they replace clerics or is their only heal spell gonna heal less then what clerics do? (just read the update info and think i didn't read anything about aid but i forgot the formula used for healing so don't know how much they will be able to heal for :D)

edit: jsut remember the thing where it sais they can't join or create parties so they won't replace clerics but they sounds like the best option for healing at bosses :D)
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Selene on 06/08/03 at 08:26:14
Actually, I think this'll be the best class.. if not the best.. one of the best classes in game. We'll just have to wait and see when it comes into play!
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Outsider on 06/08/03 at 09:32:19
What if the pacifist is arch then what do u do all day, cuz it cant party, cant get any boss drops, its kinda useless
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Jurian on 06/08/03 at 09:34:09

on 06/08/03 at 09:32:19, Outsider wrote:
What if the pacifist is arch then what do u do all day, cuz it cant party, cant get any boss drops, its kinda useless


can get demonic general :D and aethol :D
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Outsider on 06/08/03 at 09:36:56
On ur own? cuz u cant party and u cant get pked so i dont think pandi will let u be able to go after bosses
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Jurian on 06/08/03 at 09:45:09
you can follow a party :D or have some rangers/druids track you :D
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Odin on 06/09/03 at 01:57:37
Winning a mosh will be interesting, run around until there is one other person left and then let them kill themselves.... unless two Pacifists are left  :-/
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Stotic on 06/09/03 at 02:56:17
Pacifists won't be able to join moshes.
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Odin on 06/09/03 at 12:53:48
Well the list of cons keeps on growing... why are they good again? We might have a competitor for the druid.

I guess rangers and druids are the only guys that can train with them (tracking them of course)

Well in my opinion, bring in the alt rule or these guys are toast.
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Selene on 06/09/03 at 23:26:45
Ohh, I think they're putting them into testing very soon!  :-X
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Odom21 on 06/10/03 at 15:28:47
um if they not comin out around 2 weeks, whats up with that Hamster crit..?i dont know if you sad anything about him but i missed it
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Bobbity on 06/10/03 at 19:16:21
Hamster and Apothecary are test crits. :P
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Sanctuared on 06/10/03 at 19:22:43
Hamster gave me two cheesecakes!
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Pandilex on 06/10/03 at 20:15:25
The class is more focussed on roleplay than obtaining items and power which most of the game seems to have as its main objective.

Some people get fun from killing players and getting gold and better items, and some get fun from playing a character that can interact more and socialise :)
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Ashton on 06/10/03 at 21:19:57
well said
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Deval on 06/11/03 at 07:49:07

In that sense, Pacifists shouldn't be able to level, as socialising is the main reason for having the crit. It'd be wiser to introduce a 'Guest' function or the likes. It's a little bit of a contradiction tho, to say that it's a class more developed for the socially inclined, and yet not allow them to join parties.
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by dognapot on 06/12/03 at 18:12:06
i think what the pacifists are is 'cake'. just for those guys who felt that the freedoms of interacting with players who kill at thier own discretion was simply too restricting for thier roleplaying. now that we have it, we can see if you can eat it too.
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Gwerradon on 06/12/03 at 22:32:36
as my mate said to me, it would be quite funny if a zerker attacks a pacifist and round himself.....lol, ill be rolling pacifists just to see if i actually CAN round myself  lol
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Gwerradon on 06/12/03 at 22:34:02

on 06/10/03 at 20:15:25, Pandilex wrote:
The class is more focussed on roleplay than obtaining items and power which most of the game seems to have as its main objective.

Some people get fun from killing players and getting gold and better items, and some get fun from playing a character that can interact more and socialise :)


at last, some roleplay is being introduced * hugs pandi

id like to see some real roleplay chat too one day.
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Maltakano on 06/13/03 at 21:30:29

on 06/10/03 at 20:15:25, Pandilex wrote:
The class is more focussed on roleplay than obtaining items and power which most of the game seems to have as its main objective.

Some people get fun from killing players and getting gold and better items, and some get fun from playing a character that can interact more and socialise :)


first of all more roleplay YAY but how can it be more for socialising if it cant join parties and wouldnt a bard type class be more appropriate for this type pf thing because as far as i understand arent they meant to be an entertainer of sorts but then again its your game so do whatever you want still its just a thought.  :D
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Despair on 06/14/03 at 17:22:35
Im actually really looking forward to this class being opened its a good addition to the game something fresh and new gj staff  ;D
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Bobbity on 06/14/03 at 20:22:27
There's not much point in having a class if all they're going to do is socialise. Plus people can do that on any class anyway.
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Rattlesnake on 06/15/03 at 05:39:45
Not everyone in medieval times was a warrior of some type.. there were also those that just wandered and did not fight.
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Sheena on 06/15/03 at 09:18:35
This class would to be a nice.. 8)
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Gwerradon on 06/15/03 at 14:23:52

on 06/15/03 at 05:39:45, Rattlesnake wrote:
Not everyone in medieval times was a warrior of some type.. there were also those that just wandered and did not fight.


merchants  ;)
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by jadedgothgirl on 06/15/03 at 15:26:31
Not being able to part IS a huge inconvience, not only to the newbs, but just for training. I'm assuming they're main source of xp is going to be from healing, in a party they can be healing other players, plus how long do you think pacifists will survive roming around alone, even if other players cant attack them, what if they run into a group of monsters they cant attack? I think pacifists would be even harder to lvl then mages.  :-/
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Harath on 06/15/03 at 17:05:44
Nah, train in barracks at first, easy enough.. then when you get to a decent level go to museum, there you can kill them with no chance of dying. If you run out of mana just create 5 thieves, level them to 5 or whatever, and store mana on them. Seems easy to me.
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Pandilex on 06/15/03 at 18:56:22
Pacifists would indeed make good merchants :-)
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Rattlesnake on 06/15/03 at 19:26:59

on 06/15/03 at 17:05:44, Harath wrote:
If you run out of mana just create 5 thieves, level them to 5 or whatever, and store mana on them. Seems easy to me.


Don't forget they can't party.
Title: Re: When will Pacifist be open to rolling?
Post by Harath on 06/15/03 at 19:46:44
Too late ;p

Edit: Found another way ;p bring the thieves to the museum entrance in a party with a ranger or something, then throw all the mana north into the museum, then enter with the pacifist. Then go to the stairs to the next floor, throw up all your mana, then go back and pick up all the other mana. Repeat that untill you have no mana left, then go up the stairs and train, when your out of mana just go and pick it up :D Only problem is is that some bugger might steal yer mana lol


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