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(Message started by: Tender_Foot on 03/24/03 at 11:23:22)

Title: not overpowered
Post by Tender_Foot on 03/24/03 at 11:23:22
just for those who say berserkers miss a lot...I am going through the game and finding berserkers to attack my arch

my arch has 19 dex

first person is Magma Dex:18 lvl:28

Magma berserked at you from his Halberd, but missed.
Magma berserked at you from his Halberd for 130 points of damage.
Magma berserked at you from his Halberd for 101 points of damage.
Magma berserked at you from his Halberd for 93 points of damage.

Death by his alt, oh well

2nd round with him

Magma berserked at you from his Halberd for 59 points of damage.
Magma berserked at you from his Halberd for 60 points of damage.
Magma berserked at you from his Halberd, but missed.
Magma berserked at you from his Halberd for 51 points of damage.
Magma berserked at you from his Halberd for 101 points of damage.
Magma berserked at you from his Halberd for 56 points of damage. Killing you.
Macros fell to the floor, his injuries getting the better of him.

3rd

Magma berserked at you from his Halberd for 96 points of damage.
Magma berserked at you from his Halberd, but missed.
Magma berserked at you from his Halberd for 121 points of damage.
Magma berserked at you from his Halberd for 96 points of damage.
Magma berserked at you from his Halberd for 131 points of damage. Killing you.
Macros fell to the floor, his injuries getting the better of him.

4th:

Magma berserked at you from his Halberd for 114 points of damage.
Magma berserked at you from his Halberd, but missed.
Magma berserked at you from his Halberd for 110 points of damage.
Magma berserked at you from his Halberd for 90 points of damage.
Magma berserked at you from his Halberd for 126 points of damage. Killing you.



Title: Re: not overpowered
Post by Necros on 03/24/03 at 11:32:02
Its called Spells my dear friend.
Zerkers are totally useless.

Title: Re: not overpowered
Post by Norinth on 03/24/03 at 11:32:54
120 damage per hit is not much... For something (I don't even call them someone) that has aprox. 500 hp at level 30...

Title: Re: not overpowered
Post by Tender_Foot on 03/24/03 at 12:40:19

on 03/24/03 at 11:32:54, Norinth wrote:
120 damage per hit is not much... For something (I don't even call them someone) that has aprox. 500 hp at level 30...


what are you smoking? arch rangers only deal about 80 max to my arch with spells

Title: Re: not overpowered
Post by Prince_Damon on 03/24/03 at 16:16:53
All you showed is that you didn't know when to quit.. a trait even I am guilty of from time to time.

Edit: unless of course you were in an arena after the first time, in which case I'll just pretend I never said anything.. um.. yeah..  ;D

Title: Re: not overpowered
Post by Alicia on 03/24/03 at 16:25:45
hmm 15 hits 4 misses with a dwarf zerker at l28, with my l24 zerker (18 dex too) it would be the other way round, even when against a 15 dex target. So from l24 to l28 the chance to hit increaces about 4 times???? that dosnt sound right

Title: Re: not overpowered
Post by wonderful_nightmare on 03/24/03 at 16:29:40
my lvl 25 zerker hits like 1 every 3 or 4 attacks

Title: Re: not overpowered
Post by Fallen on 03/24/03 at 17:10:34
2 arch rangers/thieves will rip them apart with them having no armor...

Title: Re: not overpowered
Post by Eternyte on 03/24/03 at 17:31:12

on 03/24/03 at 17:10:34, Fallen wrote:
2 arch rangers/thieves will rip them apart with them having no armor...


If it takes 2 Arches to beat one, dont you think that makes the Zerk powerful?...I think so.

I still think there arent enough high level Zerks in the game to say what they are like yet. Especially when the majority are spelled up to their eyeballs.

Title: Re: not overpowered
Post by wonderful_nightmare on 03/24/03 at 19:08:03
well lol my lvl 25 zerker can berserk for more then 100 so they'll prolly do 125+ at lvl 30 but he only hits a lvl 28 fighter with 18 dex 2 out of 5 attacks

Title: Re: not overpowered
Post by Deval on 03/24/03 at 21:47:47

on 03/24/03 at 17:31:12, Eternyte wrote:
If it takes 2 Arches to beat one, dont you think that makes the Zerk powerful?...I think so.


Eternyte, thank god you exist, you are the ever present voice of reason.

Title: Re: not overpowered
Post by Stotic on 03/24/03 at 22:58:50

on 03/24/03 at 21:47:47, Deval wrote:
Eternyte, thank god you exist, you are the ever present voice of reason.

I second that.

Title: Re: not overpowered
Post by Alicia on 03/24/03 at 22:59:39
I recently dueled my l24 zerker (hally) with my l20 theif (crystal knife, best armour). Both are perfect dwarves, and had no dex mods and no spells. Thief uses assas zerker berserks (no rage). I let the zerker go first:

Round 1 - zerker misses all 5, theif hits for about 130
Round 2 - zerker hits once for 90-odd, thief hits for about 90
Round 3 - zerker misses all 3, thief hits for about 70
Round 4 - zerker misses all 3, thief hits for about 80
Round 5 - zerker misses all 3. Not wanting to pk my own crit i gave up at this point.


Edit - just thought id highlight the 'no spells' coz noone seems to post about zerkers unless they are spelled up to their eyeballs (apologies to whoever i stole that quote from - alicia)

Title: Re: not overpowered
Post by Lyandor on 03/25/03 at 08:08:35
Try doing it with more attacks than just berserk, like smite and normal attack.

Title: Re: not overpowered
Post by wonderful_nightmare on 03/25/03 at 08:09:28
so the point is that zerkers without spells suck and with spells they are really good?

Title: Re: not overpowered
Post by Tender_Foot on 03/25/03 at 10:42:57

on 03/24/03 at 16:16:53, Prince_Damon wrote:
All you showed is that you didn't know when to quit.. a trait even I am guilty of from time to time.

Edit: unless of course you were in an arena after the first time, in which case I'll just pretend I never said anything.. um.. yeah..  ;D


actually i was asking him to attack me...



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