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Title: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Xaviers_Shadow on 03/10/03 at 10:59:43 everyone has been moaning at zerkers lately and i now give everyone the oppertunity to post you tribulations about the class here in a serious discussion. my personal opinion of them is that their too powerful and should only have 5 stam as the fact that fighters have 6 stam is what makes them fighters. |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by dognapot on 03/10/03 at 12:04:43 they hit too often for an undisciplined fighter. they should be hit harder by other players due to thier lack of armor. ...or they should be restricted to the half-orc race. |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Xaviers_Shadow on 03/10/03 at 13:53:34 i like the idea of having the class restricted to the half-orc race but i dont think that it would be implamented :( |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Silverwizard on 03/10/03 at 15:00:06 I agree with the half-orc only think that would stop them getting good dex and wis so that their main disadvantages are canceled out. |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Deval on 03/10/03 at 22:07:51 I agree that they should be restricted to Half Orc. I agree they they should only get a total stamina of 5. I agree they currently hit too often. I agree they should recieve more damage due to thier lack of armour I suggest vulnerability to magic be somehow implemented for the dwarf beserker. |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Stotic on 03/10/03 at 23:19:25 on 03/10/03 at 22:07:51, Deval wrote:
What I favor. |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by LS_Whisper_C on 03/10/03 at 23:28:26 I'm in full agreeance to all things listed.. I mean christ.. a lvl 20 bers can drop an arch .. with one click.. and you're left going :o |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Despised on 03/11/03 at 01:28:26 The only ranger a lvl 20 zerker can one click is maybe one with 10 con and 14 dex. cant blame zerkers for the rangers crap stats..man people wake up there not that good. jesus |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Halor on 03/11/03 at 01:56:21 How many of you have ever used one? Against people they somewhat suck. Take a ranger and zercer (both 30) ranger would usually win. Hypno = berserkers miss every time lol... |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Deval on 03/11/03 at 01:57:44 and on what basis/experience with zerks do you base this response? |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Halor on 03/11/03 at 02:13:14 I am Ares in game, I have saw how they do against players first hand. Against monsters they do good, players not that good. |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Deval on 03/11/03 at 03:42:45 People often take mid twenty level beserkers to our clanhouse and duel them with level 30's, and more often than not, the beserker wins, and that's just not cricket. |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Eiements on 03/11/03 at 04:51:27 i would have to agree with making them only beable to be half-orc then they would be more fair to the other classes... maybe you could let the poeple who have dwarf zerkers now keep them tho so they didnt waste their time and all you know... |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Halor on 03/11/03 at 05:34:13 on 03/11/03 at 03:42:45, Deval wrote:
I would 'guess' they are using enhance, champs and it takes MANY rounds to get one that kills the 30... |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Xaviers_Shadow on 03/11/03 at 13:47:45 the thing that gets me is that how can a zurker hit so often when they only have 16 dex (only directed at the half-orc race) |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Norinth on 03/11/03 at 13:56:30 Deval is absolutely right about zerkers. They are far too powerful. Disadvantages against magic should be implemented. |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Halor on 03/11/03 at 22:40:24 on 03/11/03 at 13:56:30, Norinth wrote:
Once again, have you _ever_ used a 30 zerker, against monsters or dueling? |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Tender_Foot on 03/12/03 at 01:54:40 i think a berserker should (on the basis the are going BERSEK have a chance at hitting nopk members, a long with others |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Xaviers_Shadow on 03/12/03 at 11:31:29 on 03/12/03 at 01:54:40, Tender_Foot wrote:
well its an idea cause if i was to go beserk (and i have on multiple occasions) then i would hurt anyone friend or foe |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Xaviers_Shadow on 03/12/03 at 11:33:17 on 03/11/03 at 22:40:24, Halor wrote:
no i havent and i think that im gonna try it out as you seem to be quite insistant on the topic (give the man a chance guys) |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Halor on 03/14/03 at 06:21:50 Everyone Whines about how good they are.. They stink against people. I just dueld a level 30 human fighter with my 30 zerker. Got OWNED 5 times. And this was using the rune blade a questie.. Zerkers are not over powered. Their lack of armor is horrible.. With rage on the fighter hit me _every_ time. They need some more skills etc.. Possibly a dex one but it reduces str a lot.. Like rage.. |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Lyandor on 03/14/03 at 08:16:00 Try not using rage, while i havent used an arch zerker, ive seen people get rounded by them. |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by 17 on 03/14/03 at 08:17:34 i saw it with my own eyes i dont think he used rage all the time |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Eternyte on 03/14/03 at 11:31:40 Everyone should have 1 nemesis and atleast 1 fault. Zerks only nemesis are fighters. You would think they would also have a big flaw against magic because of their massive hp. This however is not the case. |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Halor on 03/14/03 at 16:46:14 I was only useing rage in one of the fights. The rest of the time it was just a normal duel. And i got owned everytime. They are not overpowered. Sure they can click someone if they get lucky and hit every time. But they _rarely_ hit every time in a berserk. |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Lyandor on 03/14/03 at 17:43:11 Ok, i've edited out the name coz i'm not sure if he wants people to know its him or not. [Clan] xxxxxx: Rot berserked at you from his Blade of Time for 170 points of damage. Killing you. Now, how is that bad? |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Tender_Foot on 03/14/03 at 20:09:47 my lvl 25 pally got rounded when dueling a lvl 24 berserker. People greatly downplay how much they miss. i got hit 4 times for 70+ damage, with 72 armor. And since I was berserked, i couldn't heal. Edit: accidently put a 1 where the 2 should have been |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Halor on 03/14/03 at 22:29:27 Lysandor, i bet you anything that was with champs and enhance. Sure they hit hard, but they miss LOADS! Who are you in game? I will berserk a few rounds on you, it will show you how much they miss. |
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Title: Re: Serious Discussion about the power of zerkers Post by Lyandor on 03/14/03 at 22:36:38 Lol ok, im Lyandor in game ;p Ill be on in about 10 hours time lol. |
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