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(Message started by: Matt on 12/27/03 at 03:25:17)
Title: The Selling of DA.
Post by Matt on 12/27/03 at 03:25:17
First off, before any moderators lock this topic, just know that John gave me permission to post this topic to get all the facts straight about DA.

Secondly, I’ll start with a little story of the clan named DA. DA was originally made by Rob aka Astinus. He shared with Rick at the time (strike ONE, staff do not support sharing). Well, Rick decided to steal the clan because they shared the chairman character.

Next, Rick sold the clan to Will aka. Anarchy. Staff did NOT stop this from happening because staff do not support sharing.

Will bought DA because the clan house was larger then his current clan house illuminati. Since Will bought DA he has put millions of his own gold expanding the clan house and making a really awesome clan. Recently as you all may know he decided to merge with BoD and sell his clan house. This was met with resistance because of the clan’s stolen background.

I do not see why the clan being stolen has any affect on the selling of the clan house. First off, JLH put in the chairman position to prevent this type of thing from happening. When clan house selling was first put in, the theft of clan houses went crazy, most of them were allowed to be sold because if you are stupid enough to trust a thief with chairmanship/foundership it is your own fault.

If I were to own a clan that had 40+ rooms but I were to transfer chairmanship to some newbie who then stole it, It is my own stupidity and I would blame myself.

Chairmanship was put in to prevent ANY disputes about clan and clan house ownership. Whoever has chairmanship of a clan is the ‘commander and chief’ of that clan and clan house who can do with it whatever he pleases.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Hexagram on 12/27/03 at 03:51:35
Sounds right, I didn't know the story but people opposing the selling of Will's clan when he owns the chairman sounded abit strange.
If some newbie clan with 1 room was stolen by someone sharing with the chairman I seriously doubt anyone would step in to stop it being sold, and instantly lock any topic regarding it...
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Payne on 12/27/03 at 04:41:24

on 12/27/03 at 03:25:17, Matt wrote:
Will bought DA because the clan house was larger then his current clan house illuminati. Since Will bought DA he has put millions of his own gold expanding the clan house and making a really awesome clan. Recently as you all may know he decided to merge with BoD and sell his clan house. This was met with resistance because of the clan’s stolen background.


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ROFL will put millions of his old gold? plz fool u just came back to play nm and u didnt join da till like 1 week before BoD came up he put nothing of his own gold so if u wana tell a story get your facts str8 fool
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by CPG on 12/27/03 at 05:12:29
I think he meant by buying the clan house from Rick.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Zephie on 12/27/03 at 05:17:11
http://www.nightmist-online.co.uk/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.pl?board=Discussion;action=display;num=1060140973

Rick posting that he was wrong for stealing the clan and that it did not belong to him.

http://www.nightmist-online.co.uk/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.pl?board=Clan;action=display;num=1058512902;start=0

The original theft post where both sides fight amongst themselves. Theft is theft, just because you buy something that was stolen doesn't make it yours. Rob worked really hard on DA, Will purchased it for 5.5mil...thats nothing compared to what it's worth. When Will purchased it he understood it couldn't be sold because I remember monitoring the trade between him and Rick. I paged him and said something along the lines of 'you know it can't be sold back right?"

Rick even called Rob on the phone to make sure it was "ok" to sell to Will. I'm sure both sides can vouch for that.

Yes, Rob made a mistake but so has Anarchy many times and his mistakes have been 'fixed'. Why can't his be fixed as well?

Numerous times people have been stolen from and staff have tried there hardest to fix the situation...This is just another one of those times.

Thank you, Goodnight.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Tadpole on 12/27/03 at 05:26:31
The clan was stolen period. Rick admitted it in his post and he will probably still admit it to this day. Rick was not able to sell the clan because of the fact it was stolen. Why should will be able to sell it back? because he paid for it "Player to Player"? Will knew it couldnt be sold back that is his own fault. I also find it funny how someone who had nothing to do with this situation is making the post. Why not will? Or are you looking to get a sum of it?
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Diagonyte on 12/27/03 at 05:40:46
If the clan was stolen why is it being sold i dont think that should be allowed its not fair :s



~Baker~
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Mephistroth on 12/27/03 at 05:47:24
Oh, how suprising!

BoD think it should be sold, TR think it shouldn't. Never would have guessed that it would happen that way ::)
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Zephie on 12/27/03 at 05:52:29
I have been against this clan being sold even before BoD existed, Meph.

btw.

Diagonyte=BoD
Payne = not TR
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Mephistroth on 12/27/03 at 05:57:07
Hadn't noticed that Diagonyte had joined bod, sorry.

I guess I should rephrase it then :P Most people who don't want BoD to do well will say it shouldnt be allowed to be sold, while most people who like BoD/are in BoD, think it should be sold.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by CPG on 12/27/03 at 06:12:35
This might not be the place, but I think the staff should have an equal view on theft of characters.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Zephie on 12/27/03 at 06:19:48

on 12/27/03 at 05:57:07, Mephistroth wrote:
Hadn't noticed that Diagonyte had joined bod, sorry.

I guess I should rephrase it then :P Most people who don't want BoD to do well will say it shouldnt be allowed to be sold, while most people who like BoD/are in BoD, think it should be sold.


As I previously stated, I have had this opinion on the situation since the beginning. When it comes down to it. It doesn't matter what BoD or TR think, it's what JLH thinks. I am coming at this situation as a member of the staff, not TR.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by AnArChY on 12/27/03 at 06:38:24
guess i'll reply since i bought it ive donated gold not just bought it and when i bought it ..it had 36 ,27 spaces and rob disbanded da before i even join bod and most of main ppl that help da they either join bod or quit rob being one he quit and plays rev mostly i mean if im in bod wut point having da  .
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Payne on 12/27/03 at 06:45:08
you prob mean 36-37 spaces cuz it sure as hell dint have 27
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Ringleader on 12/27/03 at 06:49:19
What does TR not wanting DA to be sold have to do with BoD, surely you're not so naive as to think Will would donate all of that gold to a clan that hasn't even been around a couple of months.  Much less the fact that he couldn't get his gold back if it went to buying rooms and BoD fell...

I hadn't realized that the clan had been the same clan that'd been stolen..was a tad confused on a few major points to this.  I've always been partial to the fact that old DA was Rob's clan.  I would think it fair if the only way it could be sold back to JLH for the ammount it ought to be sold for like most clans (3/4ths ch worth correct?) would be if Rob was ok with it.

I'm not going to try to go into great efforts either way since I was never in the clan.  Both of them are my friends in game.  My original post was just asking some ?s for a pal.  Thank you for the answers to them staff.

Peace,
Gaddy
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Tanis on 12/27/03 at 07:14:00
My opinion is that the clan is Rob's, therefore, sell the clan, but give Rob the gold. It's his clan house, he worked to make it and all that jazz.

And second of all, the rules say sharing is not supported, but it also says that when someone disputes a sale of a clan house, it will not be sold.

So, let's all holds hands and sing the song of TOO BAD. : )
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Matt on 12/27/03 at 08:16:30
Will has already put a lot of gold into BoD. We don't expect any of the clan house gold to be donated. I posted this because I think it is crap to not allow the fair sale of DA to the current chairman of the clan.

What Rob did is basicly give chairmanship to someone, and he got jipped. Like I said, JLH put in Chairmanship to prevent these kind of problems, but despite the 'risk', he shared with someone who screwed him over.

On the theft page under clans:

Being so difficult to manage clan problems, staff will probably never intervene in any way. Exceptions involve server errors which leave you at a disadvantage.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Zephie on 12/27/03 at 10:20:40
will probably never does not mean never.

read what you're pasting.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by AnArChY on 12/27/03 at 12:10:43
fact is if i didn't give rick like 6 mil gold to get da rick would of sold it to jlh in first place  i asked rob if it be ok if i bought da he said yea i dont see why it matters tho seeing rob dont play nightmist and im one who paid to get da back from rick
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Sublime on 12/27/03 at 14:24:59
omg people why the hell do any of you care anyway?... was it your clan your gold your time put into it... no so let the man do what he wants with 'his' clan the he did buy with his own money... now weather or not staff was involved makes no differance.... he bought the clan fair and square so stop pregnant doging about it and let the man on his way...

William sell the clan... you paid for it so i see absolutely no reason for you to keep it if you have no purpose for it.

I swear if its not 1 thing you guys are pregnant doging about its another i have advice for all of nm and that is

Mind your own gd business... im sure if this was you wanting to sell your clan you would all be in an uproar about it.

Everyone wants wants wants but nobody ever gives.... just let the man have whats entitled to him and move on with your lives its a game for christ sake.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by PureMourning on 12/27/03 at 15:49:52
I agree with Sublime, let Will sell it! Jeez.

(I've gave gave gave, gave my whole account away lil' over 2 months ago).  ;)
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Mephistroth on 12/27/03 at 16:06:57

on 12/27/03 at 06:49:19, Ringleader wrote:
What does TR not wanting DA to be sold have to do with BoD, surely you're not so naive as to think Will would donate all of that gold to a clan that hasn't even been around a couple of months.  Much less the fact that he couldn't get his gold back if it went to buying rooms and BoD fell...


Your opinion doens't count as your TR :) Same with Tanis for that matter. I don't see why this post needs to be made tbh, just talk to JLH about it instead. Discussing it here isn't helping at all.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Authority on 12/27/03 at 16:12:57
Rick did not admit to "stealing DA" Rick admitted he was wrong for taking it from Rob. Rob and I shared DA completely. 50/50 we both worked hard for it along with his brother and Jose. The whole post by me was saying how I was wrong for taking it all for myself.

When I sold it to will it was because will "was buying it for Rob". Will only paid a fraction of what the clan is really worth. Now will is claiming it for himself. The clan was already built completely and hasnt had many additions since I sold it to Will. If you ask me DA should never be sold and if It did the Gold should be given to Rob, his bro, and Jose. I already got my share of it. Will got his share from selling illuminati.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by deadman on 12/27/03 at 16:37:31
im a member of BoD so u might disregard my post but o well im making it anyway.Rick and Rob knew what could happen by sharing and it happened no1 is really in the wrong bc sharing is not encouraged.Rick sold the clan to will for half the sales and now will wants to sell.I dont see a problem with it bc staff dont get involved with sharing as they have sayd many times.BoD doesnt care of will doesnt even donate 1 gold into clan is up to him but i do believe he should giev rob part of the clan sale and the rest is his.And for all the ppl so negative bout the clan selling put urself in will's shoes u would wanna sell it too so mind ur own d**n business and let what happens happens.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by AnArChY on 12/27/03 at 18:11:28
plus if staff was gonna make it where da cant be sold why staff let me buy it off rick then they even watch tha trade lol
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Lich on 12/27/03 at 19:14:48
Ok im broken so it matters not one way or the GD other to me except to say this.

Staff has gotten involved in the theft of crits and clan items in the past they get involved when they choose to.

I remember the first attempt to sell this clan on the website and i remember it sitting there for ever not being sold back as the person who tried to sell it was the one who STOLE it. taking from someone you are sharing with is just as much stealing as if i broke into the clan house and took it. I also remember when it came off the for sale board and was sold in game By the same person who took it staff monitored the sale but they also told people in game that would not be allowed to sell back to the game server unless the origanal owner of the clan was the one who was in the chairmen slot as the clan was looked at as stolen.

The decision was made so drop it already.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Zephie on 12/27/03 at 20:25:58

on 12/27/03 at 20:10:23, Zephie wrote:
That's the point..I told you it couldn't be sold. You also said you were buying it for Rob.




on 12/27/03 at 16:06:57, Mephistroth wrote:
Your opinion doens't count as your TR :) Same with Tanis for that matter. I don't see why this post needs to be made tbh, just talk to JLH about it instead. Discussing it here isn't helping at all.


Their opinion counts as much as those from bod and yours.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Stotic on 12/27/03 at 20:44:51
How about give Will the 5.5mill he payed for it initially.  Then sell the clan and give Will the amount that equals what he bought for DA and then give the original owner the rest.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by CPG on 12/27/03 at 20:48:59
Whatever gold Will payed + any other rooms/squares added on from time of purchase. That would be a little more "fair".

Personally, I wouldn't like to see the clan sale happen. It would just mean more money ingame. A lot of it. That's never a good thing.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Zephie on 12/27/03 at 20:54:13

on 12/27/03 at 20:44:51, Stotic wrote:
How about give Will the 5.5mill he payed for it initially.  Then sell the clan and give Will the amount that equals what he bought for DA and then give the original owner the rest.



sounds reasonable  :D
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Vodka on 12/27/03 at 22:51:47

on 12/27/03 at 20:44:51, Stotic wrote:
How about give Will the 5.5mill he payed for it initially.  Then sell the clan and give Will the amount that equals what he bought for DA and then give the original owner the rest.


Sounds fair enough to me.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by AnArChY on 12/27/03 at 23:09:48
dont think any one can really comment thats was not in da cuz really ur comment means nuffin cuz u dunno wut was going on in tha clan only ppl who should be comment is old members of da
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Everlast on 12/27/03 at 23:13:28

on 12/27/03 at 16:06:57, Mephistroth wrote:
Your opinion doens't count as your TR :) Same with Tanis for that matter.


Tanis is TR numbnutz.

You're saying anyone of the opinion the clan shouldn't be sold w/o Rob getting something for the fact that he worked the clan from the begining.  Much less you take into consideration how much Rob did for that clan after Will owned it.  DA wouldn't have been too much during the days while Andy and most of their other good members were still in Devout, but Rob did enough to make up for all of their lack.  He deserves a bit of fairness delt to him.  I would think Will ought to agree as it seems like I've seen a couple of times where will got hosed by another player in game.  Completely fair by game standards, sharing with someone who screws you, or walking out of town with all of you gold because of a silly button (staff didnt have anything to do with him getting his gold back i dont think, but it's an example)

I don't really think it is Will's fault that Rob was screwed over, and he got Rob's ok to buy the clan from Rick.  Give him the normal fraction of gold from the clans he added and the 5.5 he paid (so what? 3/4ths of 5.5 and w/e else was added to clan house is still a load of gold)...Rob doesn't play much anymore, I don't know how much giving him the gold back would matter to him.  Either give him 3/4ths of the gold from when the clan was his, give him the clan house with most of the rooms cut off (maybe 15-25 left (CH had 34-36 rooms when it was taken by rick i think), or just nothing since it seems tradition for that clan to kind of screw with him.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Proteus on 12/27/03 at 23:14:40

on 12/27/03 at 23:09:48, AnArChY wrote:
dont think any one can really comment thats was not in da cuz really ur comment means nuffin cuz u dunno wut was going on in tha clan only ppl who should be comment is old members of da


At least with what their suggesting you would get some money instead of none.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by AnArChY on 12/27/03 at 23:48:13
point is why let a person sell clan to nither user if it cant be sold i mean im chairman of clan rob doesn't even play hes on rev he log on to say hi once in while thats all he not into game like he was he basicly quit just most ppl just want to make some like this into a big thing they feed off drama
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by AnArChY on 12/27/03 at 23:49:30
justt drama to feed off of for ppl
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Zephie on 12/27/03 at 23:52:30
......Ok, so would you rather the clan not be sold at all? We're looking for a reasonable solution. So now you're saying you don't want what you paid + the difference of the rooms you bought since the clan was sold?

What's so wrong about that? You didn't purchase the others, they were stolen so why should you get it?
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by AnArChY on 12/27/03 at 23:53:09
well jen really u got no say dunno why u even post jlh has say
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by AnArChY on 12/27/03 at 23:53:58
so i should sell clan for 5 mil when its worth 16 mil that makes sense lol
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Zephie on 12/27/03 at 23:54:09
It's a staff issue, I do have a say..tyvm.

Will, you paid for the clan 5.5mil from Rick correct? What Stotic is suggesting is you get the 5.5mil back, plus any rooms purchased after that point. You are not losing 1 penny.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by AnArChY on 12/27/03 at 23:58:31
well jen seeing i feel u got some thing against me i choose to not talk to you id rather talk to jlh so i'll wait to talk to tha king of nightmist
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Zephie on 12/28/03 at 00:02:39
You do that.

But also keep this in mind, If it's against you, why did I have a problem before when the clan was originally stolen? Oh wait..Could it be that I possibly find stealing completely wrong?  ::)

It's a good deal, you're not losing anything and your friend is getting back something that was stolen from him. But I guess not everyone cares about what's 'right' anymore.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by AnArChY on 12/28/03 at 00:04:36
im guessing ur talking about rob?
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Zephie on 12/28/03 at 00:05:51
Obviously.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by AnArChY on 12/28/03 at 00:07:28
jen... rob quit nightmist
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Zephie on 12/28/03 at 00:08:16
Rob plays, and he was the one who originally replied to the post. And he is the main one complaining.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by AnArChY on 12/28/03 at 00:09:14
no he told me he jsut didn't want clan sold even tho he dont play he told me that on aim he plays rev
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by AnArChY on 12/28/03 at 00:10:12
i even told him to come back to nightmist and help me rebuild da he wouldn't
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Payne on 12/28/03 at 00:20:20
why not JLH take out some 5.5 mill + the gold for 1-2 rooms that Will "payed" for when it was really his clannies.. and give me the clan with all the other rooms back and still have it so it can never sell?  

I Dont want to see a clan that i put so much effort in to just sell

And i didnt quit i just hardly pk,and train. I'm always on Astinus at sgh so anyone can reach me anytime.

Why are u doing this? I told u when before u bought it that JLH said it was never gonna get sold why are u trying to sell it now? just cuz u payed 5.5 mill? so u thought 1 day youd be able to double it? is that the only reason u told me that youd buy it?
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Stotic on 12/28/03 at 00:23:48
Anarchy, I wouldn't be so aggressive in a situation that isn't in your hands to begin with.  How would talking to JLH change anything.  Are you hoping that you could somehow convince JLH to sell the clan all in your name with your impaired sentence construction?  When Jen and I are trying to bargain a fair deal you throw it right back in our faces and demand it all.  The bargain afterall is in your favor for that any other solution behind our backs involves you receiving 0 gold pieces.



Quote:
why not JLH take out some 5.5 mill + the gold for 1-2 rooms that Will "payed" for when it was really his clannies.. and give me the clan with all the other rooms back and still have it so it can never sell? - Payne


I'm sure that could be arranged.  I'll talk to JLH about it.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by AnArChY on 12/28/03 at 00:29:11
rob why u acting like u puting every space into it alot of ppl donated not just you vic put most then any one and he quit nightmist
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by AnArChY on 12/28/03 at 00:30:49
if i would of  not bought it off rick there wouldn't of been da in first place
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Stotic on 12/28/03 at 00:31:25
If you havn't noticed Rob didn't ask for gold, but only for the clan.  I don't see how doing that could offend anyone who donated to DA in the beginning as Rob isn't benefitting financially.

And for god's sake use the modify feature
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by AnArChY on 12/28/03 at 00:32:08
i didn't see no one help get da back only i did
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by AnArChY on 12/28/03 at 00:33:31
any ways im not gonna argue about it
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Stotic on 12/28/03 at 00:33:54
That has nothing to do with the current situation.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Payne on 12/28/03 at 00:35:34
#1 if u didnt buy da it would have just sat there cuz Rick could not sell it.. get it through your head.. why u think he sold u it for 5.5? when he could have gotten 12+ mill?  and yes vic put in the most and he is MY Brother and most of the stuff he sold "I" Bought.. when did u see vic make alot of gold? never he doesnt train i bought him all that so he wouldnt touch my crits..
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by AnArChY on 12/28/03 at 00:43:14
dont matter just a clan i'll just erase it or get gold dont matter either way da goes to zero spaces when da was up goin u didn't want nuffin to do with da u disband clan i had to get u to join clan ur in just so u wouldn't get hit by clan cuz u left didn't want to help clanies or wut ever ur problem was im done talking about it tho not feeding ppl wut they want bashing and drama ect
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Payne on 12/28/03 at 00:57:09
like i said in my post before why u trying to sell now? u knew clan was to not be ever sold.. You think just cuz u are "Will" u can sell it? cuz u wasted 5.5 mill? that u got right back from selling Illuminati? plz explain  why u trying to sell when u knew it couldnt be sold?
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by AnArChY on 12/28/03 at 01:04:09
k last post for tonite on forum if it was never to be sold why would staff allow rick to sell it? ok im done i wont be on forum till tomorrow have a nice day/night
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Stotic on 12/28/03 at 01:15:34
In that case it was treated as like an item.  In this situation you want to sell it back to the game which is not comparible with Rick's situation.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Vodka on 12/28/03 at 03:24:24
I know.. I have no business putting my nose where it doesn't belong. I have no idea what happened in the old DA.. because I wasn't in it. I was in the previous one. There were a lot of donations from what I've seen.. so, I don't see why Will won't compromise with ya'll.. as long as he gets the fair share of the deal.. and Rob gets his clan back.. since it was rightfully his in the first place. (Yes, Will did buy it... but, as everyone keeps saying.. Will + clannies had only added so many squares to the house after he had it up and running)

I personally wouldn't like to see the clan sell.. due to my liking of the clan.. but, if Will is wanting to sell.. and Rob is wanting his ch back... then I'd suggest that they both would make some sort of compromising amongst themselves.. so, there isn't any arguments about it.. to where a friendship could ruin.

Also.. Will, you don't need to get all juvenile with Jen.. when she's actually playing her part as staff and trying to help both of you out.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Payne on 12/28/03 at 11:10:58
ok i came here to clear things out a bit on how many squares was bought buy  (not will) but mindi and clannies...oh this VIC btw..ok before clan was tooken from rob i sold all my crits and donated for most the clan roooms..will bought the clan and told me he had bought it for rob..not like rob couldnt have bought it in the first place...i layed back Nm for awhile come back to will not wanting the brother of the onwer of clan to be a founder anymore when i was a big part on clans funds.that will prove that will dont care about friendship in this game..and about the clan houses not much were bought after i left Nm i had bought 1 last square wich made it square # 38 and half for next will didnt put nuts in for clan the gold he put in to buy it he got right back selling illuminati he didnt lose a penny. so i dont know why he is whining now .. i yea i know he is trying to do the same thing rick tried to do cash in from others hard work and sacrafice (only one diff) rick actually help out..will didnt all i have to say im out and hi to all the people that actually get along with me miss you guys...bye
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by AnArChY on 12/28/03 at 12:05:05
ask rob why u wasn't founder i talk to him he agree with making u a leader seeing u had his acc pw and hes crit was founder and when i bought da rob didn't have over 1 mil gold cuz if he did he would of prolly bought it his self but he didn't and u selling ur crits didn't come out as 16 mil lol
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by Authority on 12/28/03 at 15:39:10
1. Vic selling hid crits came out to about 4 mil+ towards the clan.

2. You said you bought it for Rob.

3. You got your gold back from selling Illuminati.

4. You juss trying to get paid.
Title: Re: The Selling of DA.
Post by budlight on 01/02/04 at 19:56:06
well said


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