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(Message started by: Kazuya on 07/18/03 at 04:01:49)

Title: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by Kazuya on 07/18/03 at 04:01:49
Well like All nightmist should know already, Rick A.k.A Argus just stole "MY" clan and booted me lol..then he told everyone that i robbed the clan vaults in "MY" clan and when i said that its B.S he was like "JLH told me himself it was u"...guess what guys Rick lied JLH never spoke to him as i was told..not posting to cry.. Just posting cuz i would like back what is mines. Yeah we shared "MY" crit that was Chairman at the time so #1 he cant say it was his clan when if go back a while it was my thief Kazuya that was chairman untill i decided to share with rick.But why should this be a problem when Anarchy used to share wiht someone and when that person Stole his account he got all his crits back and his gold. So i would like to know why cant JLH help me to get "MY" clan back. Rick sasy he donated more than me so its his. More B.S lol they guy has not donated since the first week we made lol me and my bro have put over 4 mill into the clan and Rick has not even hit the 1 mill mark no mater what he says to try to take "MY" clan from me.Wana know why he stole it? u guys will laugh he said char was not needed for healing (witch it is) and we kept telling him it was needed so he got mad liek a little girl and started booting us lol.. Well this is the end of my story i hope JLH would help me like Anarchy was helped.

Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by Exor on 07/18/03 at 04:17:55
If Anarchy was helped I think you should be too.It is your clan, and everyone knows it.I also think Rick needs to banned  >:(

Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by Pandarus on 07/18/03 at 04:57:10
 This is Sad...
Rob you worked hard to get that clan. And everything you have. And once again someone good got robed and staff don’t help. I would say it is a case of favoritism. (i.e.) Will shared with a girl that girl gave his "P/W" out. Not only were his crits returned but his clan and items... and the person was BAN. ”Perm Ban”
Now lets look at the individual that took DA or should I say stole.
  Is this not the same kid who stole DSOP off "Epic"?
Is this not the same kid who robed Issys Rayan/Dustin Crits.
Or how about Nikkis crits and only her mage was returned
Thief "surfy" was never given back or items.
I ask myself why is it when some people get robed staff acts as if they don’t care and on other hand if happen to other Individual’s action is taken a.s.a.p.

I Ask the staff members of NM to return DA to rob and whatever may have be stolen from his Vaults. And Ban the person that has done these actions.
Then maybe there will not be another Victim from this Individual in such act of Theft

Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by Freya on 07/18/03 at 05:42:34
"The amount of theft has increased. In response, I've been conducting undercover operations to expose thieves - next time you conduct a trade it could be with one of my randomly named alts. The penalty if caught (or later traced) stealing by lying about a trade is PERMANENT BAN. Once you have a permenant ban you'll never be able to use nightmist again.  - Pandilex"  ::) This seemingly including accts, clans, items, etc.

This is true in many ways, people have been banned, delt with, and punished, however, the people whom things were stolen from are the same people, who always get things stolen from, and their offenders are always punished.  Then there are cases like this that seem to have no whim of any interest to higher authorities, and it's absured considering the so-called track record or what have you of the person who did the stealing this time. No one is perfect people make mistakes, but there is a saying that accidents don't happen twice, thrice, or four times. And it's happened more than that.

Yes, Paul has taken things, and he's also been punished harshly, for something that could be considered an act of plain curiosity i.e. logging on someones crit when it appears in your acct, due to a bug, not knowing that it's a bug. That aside, another case, like stated in previous posts above, the same people always get help, but what about those who don't always get help, and who never cry wolf, why just set them on the back burner to cool and get swept under the rug.

If you put a lot into something like a clan it's going to grow and Rob put a lot into DA, and being in TR has not fogged my vision to not see that. He's a friend, and he's never done anything wrong to me, and I don't see him deserving anyone to steal a clan from him that he worked hard to build. DA wasn't like TR where EVERYONE as a whole, contributes, and works together like a family, everything was on Rob's shoulders, he built the clan and tried to bring it up in rank and was doing a good job, and for what?

For him to trust someone, to believe they are a friend, to get lied to, to get cheated out, to get things stolen and blamed on him that have no sturdy grounds of truth what-so-ever. Had the accused person not had so many previous offenses ( that were hardly delt with) and to see someone else w/hardly any previous offenses get permanently banned for stealing/doing wrong to another player who always gets help, seems unjust and rediculous on levels unknown.

Not only does it seem like the server message is a bunch of false alarms, but it says "Only those who rob from certain players will have to deal with the consequences, and therefore be banned, everyone else will have to deal with it themselves."

::) P.s. This is not a post to degrade staff, just to let them know that there are other people out there deserving of help too.

Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by dognapot on 07/18/03 at 05:52:33
you shared the chairman. it's your fault. no one has to do anything. it sucks that you got the shaft there but you took the risk of that happening by sharing that crit and you lost. sometimes people get help sorting this kind of thing out but we all know that it isn't guaranteed, because nightmist doesn't really support sharing.

Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by Violate on 07/18/03 at 06:48:34
Rob both of you shared the clan .... you both were the chairman and like dognapot said you shared its your fault. Alot of people got tired of u and your "families" drama .... them being a big reason DA fell apart. And rick taking over ... well maybe he got sick and tired of the crap himself. And like you said rob you dont care about the clan you are rich. So you know nuts happens and thats one of those things you gotta deal with. Its like when someone shares an account and something is taken. The person had access to your account staff wont do anything about it. I think its good they dont. Maybe then people will learn not to share. Im siding with Rick this one because people dont know the whole story and ya what he did might not seem right or might not be right .. but everyone gets feed up with bs once theyve gotten enough of it. Oh and im sure Rick would appreciate all that crap youve talked behind his back the whole time. He put alot into the clan and all you did was put it to shame. Sorry but you always said it was "MY" clan well it wasnt "YOUR" clan.. it belonged to everyone who made it what is was. Sorry but you need to learn how to run ur own clan before you make one and expect it to go as planned. Next time i suggest doing it on your own.

Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by deadman on 07/18/03 at 06:54:38
Dognapot has a point u are encouraged not to share and staff have said they wont help ppl who get ripped off bc they shared so staff does not have to do anything for u rob its ur fault for sharing.And being a member in da i know rick didnt steal from the vaults or anything.Rick should not be banned.Even if what u said was true which it prolly not staff should not have to help u in ay way its ur dumb fault for sharing so dun cry bout it.

Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by Kazuya on 07/18/03 at 06:56:03
ya u just siding with him cuz he gonna give u some gold when he sells clan like u said..plus the person wiht the most drama in clan was rick the guy who thought he had a big **** and could boot fools whenever he wants so stfu and stop selling yourself to a losser cuz it just makes u one yourself

Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by Destruction on 07/18/03 at 06:56:40
Umm.. Mr Pandarus.. I dont know if rick stole from issy or not (which i dont think he did) but he didnt steal from me so i do believe you would be wrong, You are probably thinking of one of your fellow clannies and im not going to point any fingers but that person knows who she is, and as far as the clan thing goes i agree with ryan completely.

Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by Violate on 07/18/03 at 06:58:47
Rob we left DA cuz we didnt want drama.. Ill make the point im trying to make and be done with it. You Rafa Jose and any other of your familia caused more drama in that clan than the clan itself. Im not going to sit here and listen to anything else you have to say. You made the post learn to deal with the responses.

Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by Odom21 on 07/18/03 at 06:59:41
of course jlh helped will!!!!my friggin luck.. :(

Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by Bean on 07/18/03 at 07:02:28
why do people dump millions of dollars into clans full of people they never trusted in the first place?

Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by deadman on 07/18/03 at 07:02:59
K rob u lost urself now ryan is not even in da anymore and rick isnt selling clan so he wont be giving the gold to any u honestly have no clue what the **** ur talkin bout u didnt care bout the clan in the first place only bout urself so this goes to teach ya what happens when u **** some1 off.Rick contributed the most to the clan takin care of probs makin clan website everything while u just cared bout urself the whole time and got rick mad so it was ur fault for what happened.Rick contributed the most to this clan so the clan is rightfully his. So rob y dun u go back to only careing bout urself and stop bein a crybaby bc ur not gonna get clan back.

Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by Kazuya on 07/18/03 at 07:06:33
ok i can take all ya crapy insults but answer me this 1  ?? who started clan? who then invite rick and all ya? who then decided to share with a crybaby thief? at the end  Whos clan was it? .....thought so...

Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by Kazuya on 07/18/03 at 07:09:02

on 07/18/03 at 07:02:59, deadman wrote:
K rob u lost urself now ryan is not even in da anymore and rick isnt selling clan so he wont be giving the gold to any u honestly have no clue what the **** ur talkin bout u didnt care bout the clan in the first place only bout urself so this goes to teach ya what happens when u **** some1 off.Rick contributed the most to the clan takin care of probs makin clan website everything while u just cared bout urself the whole time and got rick mad so it was ur fault for what happened.Rick contributed the most to this clan so the clan is rightfully his. So rob y dun u go back to only careing bout urself and stop bein a crybaby bc ur not gonna get clan back.


lol dude u dont know nuts me jose vic and rafael wasted more gold than rick will ever waste u gd idiot and 1 more thing..if u honestly think rick didnt rob the vaults u are a fool cuz he siad it was me ..with ended up being a lie.why would he want to lie?..maybe cuz he did it fool.btw who are u just curious

Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by BRabbit on 07/18/03 at 07:10:14
u shared, like what needs to be done honestly? rick did donate a big chunk into that clan juss like everyone else did.
it happened, like come on now, earlier in clan chat u were sayin it didnt bother u and ud juss make a new clan, what happened since then? i dunno man, u both were my friends but at this point i gotta say that u shared, someone lost of on the deal, happens to everyone, now you kno not to share things that are worth a value to you.

Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by Argus on 07/18/03 at 07:11:44
To be quite honest yes u started the clan. But once I put more into the clan you then shared the chairman with me. Time and time after you did nothing for the clan. only time you donated was when you got the lag amulet drop. I put more than u ever did into the clan. And no I did not know robs account password. We shared the account "RobRick" with the chairman alt in it. I didn't take over the clan for gold, or to feel powerful. I did it to make the clan fun. All you ever did was curse people out and put people down. This game is getting to serious especially when people are paging you with life threats (/who infection). If i were ever to sell DA everyone who contributed will get a share of the money back according to what they have donated. It was not YOUR clan, and i did NOT steal anything, Simple.

And why would I rob vaults? The only thing stolen was stair keys and museum keys. Do I go to the museum? NOPE. When all the stuff was stolen I felt bad for clannies and didnt want them being pissed off so I bought them all stair key's and seum keys and gave them back to them. That makes real good sense Rob.

Paul, get ur facts straight, jill took over dsop,and dustin stole FROM ME.

And for all you people that weren't in DA, quit posting cause you dislike me cause I own you in game, post the truth and facts if you know any at all. The only true facts come from the clan members, and the people who were in the clan.

I am not going to sit here and argue with you though. We will talk to Jlh or simon, tell them the facts, then they can decide what to do.

Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by Destruction on 07/18/03 at 07:23:03
Umm Hey Rob, theres just one problem with your statement. Why would rick steal the crap out of vaults and then turn around and buy stair keys off the site that i had on there to give back to the people that the stuff was taken from?

Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by Kazuya on 07/18/03 at 07:25:17

on 07/18/03 at 07:11:44, Argus wrote:
To be quite honest yes u started the clan. But once I put more into the clan you then shared the chairman with me. Time and time after you did nothing for the clan. only time you donated was when you got the lag amulet drop. I put more than u ever did into the clan. And no I did not know robs account password. We shared the account "RobRick" with the chairman alt in it. I didn't take over the clan for gold, or to feel powerful. I did it to make the clan fun. All you ever did was curse people out and put people down. This game is getting to serious especially when people are paging you with life threats (/who infection). If i were ever to sell DA everyone who contributed will get a share of the money back according to what they have donated. It was not YOUR clan, and i did NOT steal anything, Simple.

And why would I rob vaults? The only thing stolen was stair keys and museum keys. Do I go to the museum? NOPE. When all the stuff was stolen I felt bad for clannies and didnt want them being pissed off so I bought them all stair key's and seum keys and gave them back to them. That makes real good sense Rob.

And for all you people that weren't in DA, quit posting cause you dislike me cause I own you in game, post the truth and facts if you know any at all. The only true facts come from the clan members, and the people who were in the clan.

I am not going to sit here and argue with you though. We will talk to Jlh or simon, tell them the facts, then they can decide what to do.


get your facts straight once again who bought last room?..thought so who donated 400k for the 34th room? thought so who gave about 1 mill when clan started? thought so.what u gave? like 500k for like the first few rooms? i dont see no memo saying u donated ? thougth so and dude no one is gona belive your lies about clan for fun u just want the money cuz u one broke FK who cant do nothign on your own u will end up selling it like mersecaris so stfu and stop lieing about me robing vaults lol.. u are a disgrace to this game and its even funny how u got my bro bane dfor somethign he said on aol..once again u altered a page to get what u want.. u are worth noting fool and just so u know lol your if JLH decides not to help since he likes u more or somethig then its up to him cuz if anarchy washelped for the same reason i should get the same treatment he did and did u not say yourself rick that JLH told u i robed the vaults ..or are u gona say that u never said that? learn to say the truth dude

Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by deadman on 07/18/03 at 07:27:50
Posted by: Kazuya

lol dude u dont know nuts me jose vic and rafael wasted more gold than rick will ever waste u gd idiot and 1 more thing..if u honestly think rick didnt rob the vaults u are a fool cuz he siad it was me ..with ended up being a lie.why would he want to lie?..maybe cuz he did it fool.btw who are u just curious


Rick put alot of gold into clan rob u donated almost jack sh** fafa donated barely anything vic was only one who really donated anything.Rick put a decent amount of gold i  but he was breaking his back tryin to make clan betta makin clan trips makin website etc.... he put more time and money into clan then u did rob get that into ur thick skull. And rick didnt steal from the vaults and maybe it was u since u only cared bout urself.So like i said in last post quit crying go back to only careing bout rob bc ur not gonna get anything back bc it was ur dumb fault for sharing. And u dont need to know who i am in game just that i was in da.And y u wanna know who i am anyway just so u can make death threats to me?


Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by Kazuya on 07/18/03 at 07:33:16
imma shut all ya noobs up if JLH decides to look at logs to show who robed the vaults u fool..all i gota say

Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by deadman on 07/18/03 at 07:39:03
Posted by: Kazuya Posted on: Today at 07:33:16
imma shut all ya noobs up if JLH decides to look at logs to show who robed the vaults u fool..all i gota say  


There u go again shooting ur mouth off callin ppl noobs and sh**. If JLH goes back and chechs logs its gonna prove rick didnt steal anything so y dun ya just give up already ur not gettin anything back and it wasnt urs anyway. Stop ur name callin and shut the hell up.

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Post by Exor on 07/18/03 at 07:44:37
If he was the chairman of the clan I believe it is HIS.  ::)

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Post by Selene on 07/18/03 at 08:35:00
Why don't you all stop pointing the fingers.. and the downgrading. Leave it to JLH/Pandi to handle.. otherwise this'll be another loong drama thread.. than it already is.

Hope ya get your stuff back though Rob.

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Post by Violate on 07/18/03 at 09:34:16
ok i got an idea lets go back and run through all the other issues so rob can find out stuff that happened in something that wasnt his clan. rofl. Give it up rob ... nuts happens

Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by Kazuya on 07/18/03 at 09:46:01

on 07/18/03 at 09:34:16, Violate wrote:
ok i got an idea lets go back and run through all the other issues so rob can find out stuff that happened in something that wasnt --->his<--- clan. rofl. Give it up rob ... nuts happens


u said it yourself all i needed to hear

Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by Violate on 07/18/03 at 11:21:32
ya i did... re read that rob ... makes perfect sense... and if you read it says lets go back so "rob" and then refers to "his" which is just another word for rob

Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by Argus on 07/18/03 at 13:27:00
LOL it says "WASNT HIS" are you that foolish to miss the "WASNT" in front of the "his"?

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Post by Ashton on 07/18/03 at 17:13:01

on 07/18/03 at 13:27:00, Argus wrote:
LOL it says "WASNT HIS" are you that foolish to miss the "WASNT" in front of the "his"?


/t Argus you are very childish

The only people that really know what's going on here is rob and argus, everyone else just needs to keep quiet so staff can do their jobs without too many fake stories floating around to check on and it'll get done faster.

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Post by Paranormal on 07/18/03 at 17:25:34
You people crack me up.... They have said since I've been playing Nightmist... NOT to share accounts but people continue to do so then they have a friggin cow and complain when nothing is done about the theft of shared accounts... The game is free and you seriously should take care of your own stuff and not be so bothersome when something does happen because of your own misjudgement of someone elses integrity, character, and or morality.

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Post by Defcon on 07/18/03 at 18:20:21
rob i knew it was gonna happen he'd done it before only was a matter of time hope you get it sorted and i'll talk to you in game when your on

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Post by Consanguineous on 07/18/03 at 18:54:04
im not gona take certain sides in other matters, but this i think i am. i joined the clan from the very beginning. rob made it. it is his. rick had certain belief of rob stealing stuff out of clan vault. i talked to rick after i got story from shannon he explained to me (shannon) saying that a crit was invited, appointed to founder then 10mins later he disbaned clan, so i dunno who it was or who appointed it, if we could get who appointed it. we would kno who stole wat. but the clan is rightfully robs, and i think rick should give it back. if he refuses (which he is) i think JLH should get it back for him, but i doubt he will.

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Post by Consanguineous on 07/18/03 at 18:54:46
btw when i said Clan vault i meant Clannies Vaults. sorry

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Post by Consanguineous on 07/18/03 at 18:57:01

on 07/18/03 at 17:13:01, Ashton wrote:
The only people that really know what's going on here is rob and argus, everyone else just needs to keep quiet so staff can do their jobs without too many fake stories floating around to check on and it'll get done faster.



i think you should keep quiet, its not only rick and rob, its also other clannies who were there when this stuff happened. but its not like we didnt kno something like this would happen, rick has a very impatient attitude. he snaps very easily. but lets not get into it. anyway ashton just keep quiet if u kno nothing of wats going on

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Post by Kazul on 07/18/03 at 21:31:25
Well i'm going to say one thing and be done with this post.  Though i do not feel it was totally fair for Rob to be cut out of the picture, I think DA was being toppled by the actions of your family (Jose/Rafa) and it was not fair to the people who helped make the clan what it was.  

You might look at me and ryan and say we did not donate that much, and that may be true.  I will say one thing on that, me and him did not have much money, and lately all we have been doing is saving money.  Yet there is not a clanny who can say that we did not make our presence known whenever we were online.  Ask clannies who was the first person to say "Where" when someone needed help, Joel/Ryan will be a name mentioned, of that i am certain.  

My final point is how after leaving the clan, you told ryan on AIM, "We don't need you."  and thats fine, i really don't give a dam, but then you lied about it later to me.  I considered you a friend, and if you truly feel this way, i don't know what else to say to you.

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Post by Kazuya on 07/18/03 at 22:59:50

on 07/18/03 at 21:31:25, Kazul wrote:
My final point is how after leaving the clan, you told ryan on AIM, "We don't need you."  and thats fine, i really don't give a dam, but then you lied about it later to me.  I considered you a friend, and if you truly feel this way, i don't know what else to say to you.


Never said that i said it a million itmes my aol is on auto log in and my cousin got on and said that..and the moeny has no importance thast what ya all fighitng about? point is he stole it and its not right.. his sissy atitude and his lies are not going to work.. how is he gona say that i robed vaults lol.

Title: Re: Ripped off, JLH helps others..why not me?
Post by Pandarus on 07/19/03 at 01:09:57

Quote:
 his sissy attitude

/nod.
This is just the way Rick is.
#1. He is a kiss up. As he was on Paltalk to all the Co Admins. Same here!
#2.Trys and play the good guy by spreading lies and making people look like the bad guy.
#3.Trys and make it look as if he is a victim and then cry’s with that same "Sissy attitude" as you seen in the post he came at me with. Giving me his Phone #. As if he wanted a Date. Then said he will trace the call and report me to the cops.... Lmao Real thug attitude there. Reminds me of the old Lady down my block.

Now I know his plug Squad is going to stand up for him and try and come at me for this post but all I can say to that is this.
I know Rick over 2 years off NM Before NM. I think I know a tad bit more then you do.
For one Rick was my BRO same as him and rob was maybe more. And we are not now. There is a reason!!!!!!!

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Post by Argus on 07/19/03 at 01:49:26
Yes paul, tell them all why we arent now. Cus I killed you on nm. BOOOOOHOOOOOOOO. You don't know a thing about me paul. It's the internet, get over it.

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Post by Kazuya on 07/19/03 at 02:02:06

on 07/19/03 at 01:09:57, Pandarus wrote:
This is just the way Rick is.
#1. He is a kiss up. As he was on Paltalk to all the Co Admins. Same here!
#2.Trys and play the good guy by spreading lies and making people look like the bad guy.


#1 makes u think why they wont help me lol and #2 puts u to think thast everything he has said is a lie..lol he actually told my bro that he donated 4+ mill to clan  /cough he is so poor he can hardly make 1 mill lol and he gonan donate 4+ mill ROFL come on sissy u cant afford that much not now not ever..then the other side me getign acused for stealing vaults lol and he forgot to mention that joses SWH is mising and my CPA from clan vault..hmm ima steal my own things? im not u rick so lies are not gonna get u anywhere in life u will just end up getting "POPPED" when u lie to the wrong person so quit with your childish and sissy "LIES" (btw why rob vaults i can buy my own stuff unlike u)

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Post by dc_talk on 07/19/03 at 05:17:27
almost everything ive heard about all of the staff and creators and whatnot says that they are unfair and that they are cheaters, so this should show everyone that they are. if you dont wanted tog et ripped off dont talk to them do your own thing have absolutley no conatact with them and if you have to, make it short and not friendly, they are a bunch of cheating liars who rip everyone off, but if no one does anything with them then they cant do anything but ban you, so if everyone stays away from them they cant bann everyone can they, oh yeah, they can, but will they is the queston, i dont think anyone should assosiate with them at all, they cant hurt anyone if no one is there for them to hurt. make way on your own

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Post by Exor on 07/19/03 at 06:55:31

on 07/19/03 at 05:17:27, dc_talk wrote:
almost everything ive heard about all of the staff and creators and whatnot says that they are unfair and that they are cheaters, so this should show everyone that they are. if you dont wanted tog et ripped off dont talk to them do your own thing have absolutley no conatact with them and if you have to, make it short and not friendly, they are a bunch of cheating liars who rip everyone off, but if no one does anything with them then they cant do anything but ban you, so if everyone stays away from them they cant bann everyone can they, oh yeah, they can, but will they is the queston, i dont think anyone should assosiate with them at all, they cant hurt anyone if no one is there for them to hurt. make way on your own



Yeah ok........WTF are you talking about? ???

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Post by Sausage on 07/19/03 at 06:59:17
I was thinking the same thing. But I thought I might have missed something......

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Post by Zephie on 07/19/03 at 07:00:07
dude, it's an Xtreme Christian thing!  ::)

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Post by Violate on 07/19/03 at 07:14:12
rofl

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Post by Lady_Maha on 07/19/03 at 08:24:47
What plane did this dc_talk guy fly in on? High-as-a-kite-airlines?

Seriously man, if you want to stay away from staff so badly, there's one sure way: quit playing the game they create! This thread isn't about staff cheating, it's about an internal fight in DA, and the rest of us should just stay out of it, since we don't know what happened.


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Post by Violate on 07/19/03 at 09:14:12
:D  :o  ::)  :-*  :'(

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Post by Kazuya on 07/19/03 at 15:01:20
ok for the first time im goin to stand and speak my mind (VIC) btw..ok first of all rick you accusing rob of stealing is just plain insane..come on now im robs brother he has no reason..i repeat NO REASON to steal anything..second...rick this aint all about the gold or stealin or blah blah ..its all about how much you envy rob you always was in robs shadow.the reason you took HIS clan was becouse you didnt like having to be the 1 takin orders you use to get mad when rob never let you use cobalt or blade of time..every1 knows this..and as for you saying you donated to clan the most makin it rightfully yours thats a whole load of crapp lots of people donated look at me i sold everything i owned and donated like 3 mill in 1 day does that make clan mine..i believe not.lots of people donated..as for you thinkin my family messed up the clan..why is that cuz you dont see rob yelling at them in game..for crying out loud he does it in real life to there faces he cant stop them from being who they are neather can you..these are just all excuses by you to make you look good like if you didnt do nothing wrong ..yea ill admit rob trusted you he saw you ass a friend as some 1 he can count on like he would with jose..i can say he trusted you more than rafa..juts so you can turn and do some low nuts like that..for what rick for a clan you couldnt build on your own ?..what happned to the mercenaries?..you couldnt do it on your own and sold it so you come get a good player on nightmist to actually trust you just so you can have what you could never acomplish in a GAME lmao rick your nothing no 1 likes you in or out game you have to go on NM to talk to girls and most wont even talk to your dumb ass..you say your rican..we are to but youll never see us do anything this low in or out of game it just aint right..this is all i have to say..have fun people can carry on with your daily lives from what i see rob will not be getting his clan back staff wont do nuttin about it..but if (note i said if doesent mean will) we hack him to get it back then we will be banned for it just not fair but anyways im out have fun rick with the clan you didnt create or better yet have fun with a clan that AINT YOURS hope it goes well

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Post by Paranormal on 07/19/03 at 16:00:13
I have one more thing to say about this subject and I'm over it... I've known Rob for quite some time... He's always been a gentleman and always helping people where and when he can... I can't imagine him even considering stealing from anyone.... Why would he? He's Rich! Furthermore, if he was going to rip anything or anyone off why didn't he simply kick everyone out of the clan and sell everything in all the vaults, then sell the clan? It's simple.... Because he was too trusting and Rick is too much of a compulsive liar and a thief and robbed him of his share of the clan to try to get ahead on an internet game that he simply feels he's not good enough to play without stealing from others.... sad!

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Post by Violate on 07/19/03 at 20:59:22
In all reference to the girl who supposably got wills acount stolen. Thats a load of crap. All it is an excuse to blame someone for a bad thing that happened. That girl never did a thing to help anyone steal an account. Why would anyone want their own stuff stolen. Sorry but this may be a bit off topic but it also has some reference to what has been said. And well i feel this needs to be out of the way and cleared up before anyone else makes another reference to it. She did not tell Dennis the pass, she did not let the account be stolen and not only she but i am sick and tired of hearing people still blame her for things she hasnt done. If you want to make references to things (rob) at least do it to someone who has done something wrong. Thats all im gonna say. If you dont want to be falsely accused then dont do it to other people yourself.

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Post by BRabbit on 07/19/03 at 21:21:30
ima say this like jeff did, im not gonna take either's sides, but ya kno, the day it happened and the day after and to this day, all i been told by all robs friends, is that im not a -real- friend or i dont kno what the true meanin of a -real- friend is, but guys, honestly, they all my friends or were my friends but ya dont gotta act like a lil kid and tell ppl that are still in DA all this bs. now rob, u been the one actin so immature bout this, u got everyone thinkin me and rick "stole" DA off u but u kno for d**n sure i didnt have nothing to do wit nething that happened, why u doin that, cuz im not takin ur side on this and leavin DA, that will never happen man, from day 1 i said i was in this clan no matter what till this clan ends for good, im not takin ricks or ur side on this matter, what u guys do bout it, is ur guys problem, not mine juss like it isnt neone else's on this game, this clan was all of our's, not juss yours or ricks, everyone built this clan to what it was and what it still is today, me/ryan/joel/rick/you/vic/raf and jose alll did a equal share to this clan, now what you guys do from this point on bout this clan, thats your prob. im juss gonna say im sick of all this bs that im hearin from ur friends, if u got sumthin to say, u say it to me, not have ppl tell me, cuz thats so immature. im done wit this topic now, so have a nice day  ;D

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Post by Ashton on 07/19/03 at 21:38:32
why must you all post with little to no punctuation, and in one big huge paragraph and using abbreviations like u and r? I haven't read one post in this thread that is like that, and most of them have been.

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Post by Paranormal on 07/19/03 at 21:43:31
I'm sorry but I don't see how any of you would want to be a part of a clan who has such problems and air them on a public forum... it's fine to be loyal to a clan but when the clan has obviously been stolen from Rob... how can you justify staying? Your chairman is a thief and that says alot about the clan as of now. :-/

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Post by Odom21 on 07/19/03 at 23:23:29
Violate...how i get pw from? please tell me...so I know ..

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Post by Zephie on 07/19/03 at 23:23:56
From Shelly   ::)

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Post by Odom21 on 07/19/03 at 23:29:03
plzzz tell me ryan/joel dunno which 1 it is...since i wouldnt know...plz inform me

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Post by Consanguineous on 07/20/03 at 00:32:47
This is so hilarious lol. after rick found out what i posted. he gets on AIM and starts cussing me out, saying. "good job dumbass." -- "lost one friend for someone who won't even talk to you anymore" (refering to rob)--"if i ever see you on paltalk im gonna make your computer an expesnive paper weight" and also told me i should kill myself because no one likes me. lol.

Well rick, i really don't care. You call yourself a friend. ROFL. thats a good one. Let me ask you this. Who booted me from clan because i got the drop on Malok when i was a lvl 27 thief? who got all pissy cause i wouldn't sell a lvl 30 1off5stat thief for 700k? thats right lol thats you. so rick just stfu dude. your not the "friend" you say you are. your not a friend at all. You tell me "bill is just using you to train his crits"-- then i tell bill this, he asked you bout it. And you denied it. How come? scared of the truth? scared your gonna lose someone who is a friend? your just a class A PRICK, rick. you are your nothing more then a Prick. thats all i got to say :) toodaloe ;D

heh well have fun everyone. bye.

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Post by Consanguineous on 07/20/03 at 00:34:06
oh i forgot something, when i said rick was gonna make my computer an expensive paperweight. Heh. Bring it rick. you know my s/n on paltalk. just come on any time buddy ;) ill be waiting.

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Post by BadAngel on 07/20/03 at 00:46:55
You know what is funny Dennis?  Is that youre big enough to steal that shyt .. .but not big enough to cop to who you got the password from.  Youre letting me take the blame when you and other people know good and well I refused to give it up.  You guys made me feel like dirt cuz I wouldnt help you get back at Will.  

Something else is funny.  Jen youre 2/0 with your accusations twards me.  *wrong the first time *wrong this time.  

Anyone who Knows me ... knows that I walk my talk.  This backstabbing drama isnt and wont ever be my style.   *end of story*

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Post by Violate on 07/20/03 at 00:56:46
First of all Jeff when you got the emerald jose booted you.

Dennis your a homie and all but you and I both know shelly didnt give you the password.  

Paranormal please if were not putting punctuation for god sakes we have enough other things to argue about on this thread.


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Post by Ashton on 07/20/03 at 01:06:28
.....I'm not paranormal

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Post by Paranormal on 07/20/03 at 01:09:21
I would be Paranormal.... see the difference? Ashton.... Paranormal..... Ashton.... Paranormal.... lmao what a moron

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Post by Violate on 07/20/03 at 02:45:09
Whatever lol i guess the name wasnt important enough to remember. You both are the same to me.

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Post by Ashton on 07/20/03 at 02:54:36
just like ryan/joel are the same to me  ;)

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Post by Paranormal on 07/20/03 at 03:43:56
:o attaboy.... you've made a fool of yourself.. now make a bigger fool of yourself by trying to lessen someone that you don't know... nor will never have the chance to know because of your ignorance.... I've noticed that alot of these people in this game have serious issues that need to be address... It's simple psychology... You try to degrade other people to make yourself somehow feel better... I veiw you as having inferiority complexes... it's terribly sad... seek help.... it's only a phone call away  :-*

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Post by AnArChY on 07/20/03 at 05:03:34
o0 dennis do tell do tell lol

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Post by DrAgIn on 07/20/03 at 05:21:29

on 07/18/03 at 07:11:44, Argus wrote:
To be quite honest yes u started the clan. But once I put more into the clan you then shared the chairman with me. Time and time after you did nothing for the clan. only time you donated was when you got the lag amulet drop. I put more than u ever did into the clan. And no I did not know robs account password. We shared the account "RobRick" with the chairman alt in it. I didn't take over the clan for gold, or to feel powerful. I did it to make the clan fun. All you ever did was curse people out and put people down. This game is getting to serious especially when people are paging you with life threats (/who infection). If i were ever to sell DA everyone who contributed will get a share of the money back according to what they have donated. It was not YOUR clan, and i did NOT steal anything, Simple.

And why would I rob vaults? The only thing stolen was stair keys and museum keys. Do I go to the museum? NOPE. When all the stuff was stolen I felt bad for clannies and didnt want them being pissed off so I bought them all stair key's and seum keys and gave them back to them. That makes real good sense Rob.

Paul, get ur facts straight, jill took over dsop,and dustin stole FROM ME.

And for all you people that weren't in DA, quit posting cause you dislike me cause I own you in game, post the truth and facts if you know any at all. The only true facts come from the clan members, and the people who were in the clan.

I am not going to sit here and argue with you though. We will talk to Jlh or simon, tell them the facts, then they can decide what to do.



rick who are you to talk about bringing real life threaghts into the game... you do realize that you, rob, jose, rafa, vic, and whoever else wanted to come and beat me and tony up cause of some stupid bs that happened IN-GAME... you have absolutely no room to talk about that

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Post by Odom21 on 07/20/03 at 05:33:05
now will did we not go over this alrdy?!   :P

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Post by Pandarus on 07/20/03 at 06:45:26
       You people have to be really dumb here. Or the fact you simply see and know what is going on… Šėådl˙ Ā££īäńēė as we all know is robs clan.

For 1. Rob made the clan. It was even robs clan tag for a bit in illum before DA. Was made..

# 2. Robs crit was chairman till a thief logged on and and changed Chairmanship without rob knowing

# 3. This same lowlife thief then says it was becouse rob made Drama in the can so he took what was part his clan to end the drama.

# 4. No more then a few days later Rest of people are Removed and clan is being sold…

     It seems funny to me that he would sell a clan he took over just to end the drama In such shout amount of time.

  we all know the truth here.
The clan was stolen for the simple fact of a free and fast 11 mill.
   Now people look at my posts on the forum under A New Alliance and you take notice to what I said to Rick 4 days to a week before he robed robs clan.
   
     In this post you will see me talk about how this same kid  needs to steal of people to get what he has ingame.

  Funny a week later what is all this.
well this is my last post on here it seems the truth dont matter anyway!

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Post by Kazuya on 07/20/03 at 08:15:53
yup shelly helped memake the tag  ;D but oh well gues all that my bro posted is true lol .. i have a stalker in my shadows lol

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Post by Argus on 07/20/03 at 15:11:57
First of all im not keeping any of the gold. Leave it to paul to run his mouth about something he doesn't know about. And I didnt steal nuts. We shared chairman since day 1. And to be honest, I don't care what any of you think. Paul your just made cause I killed you, and you've been going on ever since. The gold was all going back to the people who donated it. So paul, you dumb uneducated being, you should know what your talking about before you run your mouth you moron.

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Post by Exor on 07/20/03 at 15:14:59
Who wants to bet he ends up with a cobalt?  ::)

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Post by Argus on 07/20/03 at 15:23:46
I'll bet you my account?

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Post by Mephistroth on 07/20/03 at 15:37:12
Ok, any staff want to watch this bet? If Argus doesn't give back ALL the gold to its rightful owners, Exor gets his account.

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Post by Bill on 07/20/03 at 15:46:33

on 07/20/03 at 15:11:57, Argus wrote:
First of all im not keeping any of the gold. Leave it to paul to run his mouth about something he doesn't know about. And I didnt steal nuts. We shared chairman since day 1. And to be honest, I don't care what any of you think. Paul your just made cause I killed you, and you've been going on ever since. The gold was all going back to the people who donated it. So paul, you dumb uneducated being, you should know what your talking about before you run your mouth you moron.


Does this mean i get my cash back? :D

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Post by Exor on 07/20/03 at 15:49:05
Dont count on it

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Post by Argus on 07/20/03 at 16:11:48
But if I do I get Exor's account right? And Bill who are you?

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Post by Mephistroth on 07/20/03 at 16:16:25
Why would you get Exor's account? Otherwise your just being allowed to chose: Exor's account or 11 mill gold. I'd go for the gold, but with your stupidity you'd probably go for his account (not saying its bad lol, just not worth 11 mill)

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Post by Bill on 07/20/03 at 17:58:30
I'm Caliadne, and i donated a mill.  :)

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Post by Freya on 07/20/03 at 19:13:26

on 07/20/03 at 15:11:57, Argus wrote:
First of all im not keeping any of the gold. Leave it to paul to run his mouth about something he doesn't know about. And I didnt steal nuts. We shared chairman since day 1. And to be honest, I don't care what any of you think. Paul your just made cause I killed you, and you've been going on ever since. The gold was all going back to the people who donated it. So paul, you dumb uneducated being, you should know what your talking about before you run your mouth you moron.



So then you have kept track of everyone who donated. So then that's everyone including Rob, right? Then you will be giving Rob back his rightful share then, meaning everything he put into it correct? I mean, you did say ALL. And he did contribute, drama or not, reguardless of why you say you took it over.  ::) Or, will this be a case of, "You'll get back what I think you deserve". ........

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Post by Violate on 07/20/03 at 19:44:36
To be honest rick lol dont even bother posting in this thread anymore. These ****s dont know anything. Let thim sit here and talk their nuts. Because thats all that they can do. Theyve proven it time and again. So dont post another post on here dont even look at it. Its over and done with. Im not looking at it again.

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Post by Pandarus on 07/20/03 at 21:56:39
  lmao make your mind up rick in last post on other topic you said i was mad that you killed my g/f.
Then when i paged you in game you said you never attacked me only heather..... Looks to me someone is BS...

  But back to the topic Is ROB and VIC geting there cut then?
Bet not. So dont make it look like your MR Supper Hero.
Becouse in my eyes and alot others you still a theif and funny only people i see stand up for you on here is maybe people that want in on the cut some how..

 Like MR Violate. you know you did go to Cdlc and did bring them members and maybe will bring him on the cut and donate some money to his clan so guess he has to stand up for you.

P.S Hey Violate lets go back a week or so ago.
When i left TR and was it not you who asked me to join DA.
I then told you i would not join Due to rick.
  Are you Not the one who then told me this is "NOT RICKS CLAN"
  Then are you not the same person who copy pasted to me some kind of rank thing that said somthing about top what ever founders? and rick was one of them on there?
   
 And the point of doing that was? To show me that was NOT RICKS CLAN?

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Post by CPG on 12/27/03 at 19:29:44
There is no fair way to settle this. Since the clan was stolen and sold, many additions have been added on to it. That is Will's part, not Rob's, or whoever's.

My opinion on the matter of stealing is this. Staff, I believe you should either try to solve all the problems of theft when they are brought to your attention. Yes, I know it's a lot of work. In the long run however, your game will end up much better. Or, do nothing about stealing. If that's the case, then do not make it sound like it is alright to steal, which it does at this current point. Take a look at Deval's new slogan which Pandilex endorses. People look at that and think "Hey, I can steal people's accounts and nothing will be done to me. Awesome!". That along with various other messages promoting theft make Nightmist a Thieves den.

Do nothing, or do everything.

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Post by JLH on 12/27/03 at 21:14:34
while that is how i generally look at it, and do nothing, there are some things that are just so easy to fix, that they are. for instance, clan gets stolen --> stop it getting sold so they can't benefit from it's gold value.

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Post by Everlast on 12/27/03 at 22:22:48
This post shouldn't have been bumped.  Someone posted and deleted their post, I think.  I posted something griping out the person who bumpped it, but then noticed the post was gone.

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Post by Vagabond on 12/27/03 at 22:36:34
You guys are such drama queens and what???? another idiot who shares his account  ::)

Seriously there will come a day where all this nuts dont matter and hopefully it's soon because nm would be a a hell of alot better without both of them and thier bs.






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