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(Message started by: Zephie on 03/13/03 at 06:52:39)

Title: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Zephie on 03/13/03 at 06:52:39
I believe Illuminati was there as well, but here are tadpole's kills.

16 draco deaths.

Zana felt the full force of Miles's Cobalt Staff of the Winds!
Dark_Innocence should never have crossed paths with Fase and his assassinate!
Gideon's armor wasn't good enough to stop Faith's deadly assassinate!
Balgar was just annihilated by Faith with his awesome assassinate!
Dark_Innocence's armor wasn't good enough to stop Miles's deadly Cobalt Staff of the Winds!
Benin just succombed to Miles's scary Cobalt Staff of the Winds!
Zana should never have crossed paths with Miles and his Cobalt Staff of the Winds!
Rose ducked at the wrong time to avoid Miles's stinging Cobalt Staff of the Winds!
Elusive_Illusion succumbed to Fase's expert skill with his assassinate!
Koldfire ducked at the wrong time to avoid Miles's stinging Cobalt Staff of the Winds!
Graphite was just annihilated by Miles with his awesome Cobalt Staff of the Winds!
Darris wasn't fast enough to avoid Faith's assassinate!
Facade was just annihilated by Diagonyte with his awesome Stormwrath!
Phileo felt the full force of Faith's assassinate!
Gideon's armor wasn't good enough to stop Faith's deadly assassinate!
Balgar was just annihilated by Faith with his awesome assassinate!

1 TR death

Zekhia felt the full force of Phileo's assassinate!

Title: Re: War in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Zekhia on 03/13/03 at 07:21:42
Yes they were there...Thanx will and shane  ;D

Title: Re: War in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Maesse on 03/13/03 at 07:32:47
Nice Job, You three  :P

Title: .Re: War in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Insomnia on 03/13/03 at 08:23:20
Good job!

Seems like you fought pretty well out there, although the greatest performance was to find DH members outside lower level areas - therefor the "Good Job!".

:)

Title: Re: War in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Momba on 03/13/03 at 12:59:53
DH has once again been crushed. My life is now complete and babyFrog is still my hero:)

Title: Re: War in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Bishop on 03/13/03 at 16:43:20
A specific moment in time chosen by TR - who cares.

Kills come and go - it was not a 'war session' chosen and agreed by both sides or anything.  We never claimed to be able to take TR, but I do think it's in poor taste to post an isolated incident as if it's the only exchanges that have taken place between our 2 clans.  But, whatever makes you feel good.


Title: Re: War in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by AlecxZeck-P1C on 03/13/03 at 17:18:54
  Well, d**n---  Appreciate you takin' care of the job for me?  Eh, well..  They're still gonna die by my hand.  Good work, though  ;)

Title: Re: War in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Zephie on 03/13/03 at 19:59:57
Bishop, We are posting all "wars" on here, not just "DH" if you notice the crystal giant one..

Title: Re: War in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by newb on 03/13/03 at 20:07:59
Well, of the 3 "war" threads. 2 of them are directed towards Draco Honoris. I don't really like the clan myself, but posting things like those are just demeaning and uncool.

Title: Re: War in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Zephie on 03/13/03 at 20:14:05
It is a clan forum, thus posting clan rivalrys, and war storys..etc etc, if it is unappropiate for CLAN forum, then I'm sure it will be removed.

Title: Re: War in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Zephie on 03/13/03 at 20:16:36

on 03/13/03 at 16:43:20, Bishop wrote:
Kills come and go - it was not a 'war session' chosen and agreed by both sides or anything.  We never claimed to be able to take TR


Taken from some profiles ; the demise of TR and Illuminati.
Carrying warrants from Crusher for the demise of TR and Illuminati


Sorry, but those sound like fighting words

I also find it rather amusing how Crusher always states he will find on his terms, why can't it be the other way around?:P

Title: Re: War in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Valentine on 03/13/03 at 20:17:58

on 03/13/03 at 20:07:59, newb wrote:
but posting things like those are just demeaning and uncool.

I was thinking "boring."

...yet another section of the forum doomed for the "Mark All As Read" button.

Title: Re: War in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by wonderful_nightmare on 03/14/03 at 09:24:37
STOP BRAGGING ALL THE TIME

Title: Re: War in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Issyfur on 03/14/03 at 11:40:47
Why shouldn't they brag? Think about it in reality terms. 1 person killed DH, but it took all of DH to kill one of his chars. Doesn't that give the person bragging rights? MAYBE your just jealous that you or your clan has not accomplished anything of such high standards like TR has?

What the members of TR have, they have worked for, and they have worked to becoming as 'skillful' as they are, which therefore gives them..BRAGGING RIGHTS.  ;)

Title: Re: War in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by wonderful_nightmare on 03/14/03 at 11:53:14
tr has acomplished having 4 or 5 of the strongest palyers in the game in their clan. dude i've seen a mill ion threads allready where tr shows off a fight they won.

and it's allways the same persons in the fight. and their posts never really show how many vs how many it was (unless you go count all crits and kills and stuff) if tadpole took out 12 arches it would be impressive and all but is there anyone really interested in this stuff? this is only a thread tr made to show off their strength which ppl know they have and to make them feel better about themselves.

like in these threads 90% of the replies are made by tr members.

we know tr is strong so there is no need to post victories they got all the time.


Title: Re: War in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by AlecxZeck-P1C on 03/14/03 at 15:44:48
   Look, I despise The Resistance myself, but they have all right to poke fun at the people they've killed "In-War".

  "They Deserve It" no other side about it.

Title: Re: War in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by wonderful_nightmare on 03/14/03 at 16:17:07
once is cool twice is ok 3 times is like the maximum

but this week alone i saw 3 diff threads about tr winning a fight and all.

like i said before they are stronger then any other clan and that's cool with me but these threads are becoming more and more annoying.

and when someone posts a thread where they say tr lsot they come up with excuses like the thread is bs and you did this and that and all.

it's just starting to get annoying.

what do they look for? recognition? they got that. Everybody knows they are strong so showing their strength would be useless. Conclusion they only want to make fun of the other clan which is just lame.

(now i'm gonna get a million ppl calling me and idiot and stuff but i suggest you don't even bother cuz i do not care about it. this is just my opinion)

Title: Re: War in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by ArchAngel on 03/14/03 at 16:28:40
If you find the threads annoying then maybe read the title of the thread before reading it.  It is clearly labeled war, so one would think if you found the threads about war annoying you would not read it.

Title: Re: War in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Bishop on 03/14/03 at 16:51:45
Inaccurately labeled 'War' - they are referencing only 'Battles'; one battle of several that have already occured and many that undoubtedly will occure in the months to come.  The 'War' has barely begun.

Title: Re: War in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Zephie on 03/14/03 at 18:01:01
lol, I'll edit it JUST for you Bishop  ;D


PS- Wonderful- I'm making it a habit to post all "battles" between clans in the CLAN forum. Regardless whether or not we win or lose. I'd like to encourage the other clans to do the same, It'l spicen up the clan forum a little.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Valentine on 03/14/03 at 18:44:26
I am very sad for anyone who thinks of these threads as "spicey"

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Lyandor on 03/14/03 at 18:52:13
Saying 'Tadpole VS DH' implies that all of DH was involved, when I doubt it was. It would be better if it was changed to 'Tadpole VS some DH'

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Zephie on 03/14/03 at 19:37:20
Valentine, didn't you say that this was another forum thread you would mark as read? or wait, was that another lie?

It was elusive/alphabet and Crusher, so yeah "MOST" of dh :)

If you don't like reading the topics, there's a very simple solution. DONT read them.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Valentine on 03/14/03 at 19:58:56
I have yet to lie about anything relating to this forum/game. I'd appreciate you 1) reading the posts correctly and 2) restraining from arguing for no particular reason.

Libel is no one's best color.

Edited because, contrary to certain beliefs, slander and libel are not the same thing.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by newb on 03/14/03 at 20:02:01
Well, these posts are offensive to me, bragging rights or not, its not right to post stuff like this on forum. According to the TOS, this thread should be removed seeing as it has offended these people and myself. Another thread of this sort should not be made seeing as how it will just provoke further complaints and general unhappiness.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by pfftttt on 03/14/03 at 20:07:08
Newb hun, "Going to war with a rival clan? Trying to recuit more members? Post your clan antics here!"
This topic was not intended to be anything more then just that, clan antics and a war/battle.  People post all the time things that are meant in a derrogatory manner about TR, saying how we supposedly always jump ppl, that we never fight fair, and what not.  Why shouldnt we be allowed to post specific things that refute those claims?

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by newb on 03/14/03 at 20:10:43
Its just getting out of hand how people post things like these, it just promotes further insults and violence. I was just trying to help. It wouldn't be so bad if they kept it in-game, but rubbing it in their face like that is just wrong.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by pfftttt on 03/14/03 at 20:17:49
I know you were just trying to help hun *hugs newb* you have a good heart.  

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Necros on 03/14/03 at 22:15:10
Omg Mary shut up...

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by newb on 03/14/03 at 23:11:12

on 03/14/03 at 22:15:10, Necros wrote:
Omg Mary shut up...


Necros, quit being mean to Mary. She is way cool, case closed.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Amy on 03/15/03 at 04:50:49
<chuckles some as she reads the words of rival clans knowing they came because one they call a friend asked them to after being followed all over nightmist by the clan of TR and being attacked by several archmasters>

Seems to me many many more than just one died.  But if it really makes you feel strong and powerful to believe that you lost only one... go for it.  It matters not to us.

<Knows for a fact several were dead before all of her and Crushers agents were even seen>

<shrugs some knowing in the end the clan of TR beat them this time but that the battle is far from over>

(edited for typo)

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Tender_Foot on 03/15/03 at 10:22:37

on 03/13/03 at 06:52:39, Zephie wrote:
I believe Illuminati was there as well, but here are tadpole's kills.

16 draco deaths.

Zana felt the full force of Miles's Cobalt Staff of the Winds!
Dark_Innocence should never have crossed paths with Fase and his assassinate!
Gideon's armor wasn't good enough to stop Faith's deadly assassinate!
Balgar was just annihilated by Faith with his awesome assassinate!
Dark_Innocence's armor wasn't good enough to stop Miles's deadly Cobalt Staff of the Winds!
Benin just succombed to Miles's scary Cobalt Staff of the Winds!
Zana should never have crossed paths with Miles and his Cobalt Staff of the Winds!
Rose ducked at the wrong time to avoid Miles's stinging Cobalt Staff of the Winds!
Elusive_Illusion succumbed to Fase's expert skill with his assassinate!
Koldfire ducked at the wrong time to avoid Miles's stinging Cobalt Staff of the Winds!
Graphite was just annihilated by Miles with his awesome Cobalt Staff of the Winds!
Facade was just annihilated by Diagonyte with his awesome Stormwrath!
Phileo felt the full force of Faith's assassinate!
Gideon's armor wasn't good enough to stop Faith's deadly assassinate!
Balgar was just annihilated by Faith with his awesome assassinate!

1 TR death

Zekhia felt the full force of Phileo's assassinate!


I'm going to make this very clear to you zephie, this was NOT a TR vs DH battle. It was a DARU AVEN vs. THE RESISTANCE. You infact, actually put some of my clan members under the Draco Honoris deaths. To be truthful, I took out a total of 5 peope, what clan they were from, oh well, but you might wanna get your facts right, I called for help from a good allie, Draco Honoris.

Now, let me fix this for you

Zana felt the full force of Miles's Cobalt Staff of the Winds!
Dark_Innocence should never have crossed paths with Fase and his assassinate!
Gideon's armor wasn't good enough to stop Faith's deadly assassinate!
Balgar was just annihilated by Faith with his awesome assassinate!
Dark_Innocence's armor wasn't good enough to stop Miles's deadly Cobalt Staff of the Winds!
Benin just succombed to Miles's scary Cobalt Staff of the Winds!
Zana should never have crossed paths with Miles and his Cobalt Staff of the Winds!
Rose ducked at the wrong time to avoid Miles's stinging Cobalt Staff of the Winds!
Elusive_Illusion succumbed to Fase's expert skill with his assassinate!
Graphite was just annihilated by Miles with his awesome Cobalt Staff of the Winds!
Phileo felt the full force of Faith's assassinate!
Gideon's armor wasn't good enough to stop Faith's deadly assassinate!
Balgar was just annihilated by Faith with his awesome assassinate!

Daru deaths:

Koldfire ducked at the wrong time to avoid Miles's stinging Cobalt Staff of the Winds!
Darris wasn't fast enough to avoid Faith's assassinate!
Facade was just annihilated by Diagonyte with his awesome Stormwrath!
Darris wasn't fast enough to avoid Faith's assassinate!

And we all know, I died a lot more times then that. It's quite obvious when 8 arches, are killing 4 crits all lvl 25 and under, other people will be brought into the battle.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Zephie on 03/15/03 at 18:50:07
You were fighting Illuminati first, not The Resistance......Miles walked in and saw the fight and decided to join in.

In the log - I only put TR kills and TR deaths, as I cannot see who dies and who kills from the other clans.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Bishop on 03/15/03 at 19:43:25
In that case (jumping into an existing frey), seems inappropriate to post this thread at all.  Hardly shows much truth to what had actually occured.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by AlecxZeck-P1C on 03/15/03 at 20:46:22
  Didn't read half of what you posted, but how about a "War Thread"?

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by MmMStewert on 03/15/03 at 21:19:43

on 03/13/03 at 06:52:39, Zephie wrote:
I believe Illuminati was there as well, but here are tadpole's kills.

16 draco deaths.


You put draco deaths, not tr kills. And you know that this little battle started way before dh even got there.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Zephie on 03/15/03 at 21:29:02
Tadpole wasn't there till DH got there, it was Illuminati.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Insomnia on 03/15/03 at 23:19:09

on 03/15/03 at 21:19:43, MmMStewert wrote:
You put draco deaths, not tr kills.

Can't be hard to understand that those DH deaths was made by Tadpole, since she don't get messages when illuminati kills one of them.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Tender_Foot on 03/16/03 at 03:28:56
Actually, Tadpole was there long before what your saying, but he happened not to get a kill until DH got there. Once again, I don't think your completely informed on the topic you've started Zephie.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Zekhia on 03/16/03 at 11:09:19
Actually i stopped and helped will/anarchy cause he is a friend....then DH popped out and got owned....and so did you tender_foot....and why are you posting anyways....your not even in DH...we jus wanted to emphasize that DH got owned....since they think they can take tr....only way they can kill tr is to kill our low lvl crits in the swamp...and they even get owned there when we make parties....let them come to arilin gates,south gates etc...bet they wont even have a chance.

VIVA LA RESISTANCE!    <--- now thats old school  :P

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Bishop on 03/16/03 at 15:50:49
::)

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Selene on 03/16/03 at 15:57:37
I don't care that this happened. TR taking a whole bunch of people out is nothing new.. it gets old fast.. they're too greedy.


Tadpole, what's old school would be...

BAM! JUST ANOTHER VICTIM!

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Harky on 03/16/03 at 16:54:00
I feel somewhat hypocritical pointing out the arrogance displayed throughout this entire post considering back in the day I was pretty arrogant myself.. but at least I never used to post a thread on the forums every time I won a fight, and I didn't rely on an army of alts - I'd rather die.

And just for the record, I'm not 'taking sides' here.  I don't really know anyone that actively plays in either side, and I'm sure there's a reason for the hostility shown between the two sides but this is no way to resolve any conflict.

Grow up.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by LS_Whisper_C on 03/16/03 at 21:35:49
no offense to anyone... it was done.. ppl jumped in.. ppl got killed.. Done over with..

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Zephie on 03/16/03 at 21:42:18
"IVE GOT POWER IRL, YOU DONT KNOW WHO YOUR MESSING WITH"

"ILL DESTROY YOU IRL"

"YOUR CLAN IS @^%^!%!"

Yeah......we should really grow up.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Amy on 03/17/03 at 00:30:43
OOC

First of all, no one should attack anyone IRL .. this is a game.  We all play one side or the other or are neutral.  Attacking someone IRL is not only immature but ridiculous and should never be tolerated.

Secondly, Draco Honoris does not attack parties just in a certain area. When an attack is warranted and needed we do so wherever we happen to be at the moment or wherever a friend, ally, or other clan member needs assistance.

Third, being number 2 in clan ranking, we too have obviously worked hard for our position and deserve it.  There is no reason to say as is often stated, that our clan has done so through any unethical practices. Whether it be a "good" clan, an "evil" clan or a neutral clan, everyone has the same game to play and whether a clan is number 50 or number 1, no clan is worth more than any others from an ooc standpoint.

Last, lets everyone stop the insults, save them if they must be spoken, for in game where we are battling according to what we believe in or don't believe in and everyone just have fun playing the game.  Is what it is all about anyway.

~Me
Known in character as Amy of Draco :)

edited for typo

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Zephie on 03/17/03 at 00:36:21

on 03/17/03 at 00:30:43, Amy wrote:
First of all, no one should attack anyone IRL .. this is a game.  We all play one side or the other or are neutral.  Attacking someone IRL is not only immature but ridiculous and should never be tolerated.



Crusher attacked Tadpole with those lil quotes I just said, so yeah...maybe you should be telling him that since he decided to take it out of game.

I agree with you, it should stay in game.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Oblivion on 03/17/03 at 03:08:54

on 03/16/03 at 21:42:18, Zephie wrote:
"IVE GOT POWER IRL, YOU DONT KNOW WHO YOUR MESSING WITH"

"ILL DESTROY YOU IRL"

"YOUR CLAN IS @^%^!%!"

Hehe, I would love to see crusher or whoever said that, try..
257 Seria Road Jackson City, FL.
^----Real Address

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Seeker on 03/17/03 at 04:47:46
Now, this post that I am about to post is VERY long.. For those of you who need to listen to me and see what I think of this childish "situation", I sugest you read this.. Specially the members of DH, and TR..

For one, this has gone far enough! I am sick of this conflict betwean Bishop and his loyal freinds, and the staff members and thier friends.. I think the two clans, the Resistance, and Draco Honoris. are fighting for no tipical reason at all..

I think they are both fighting ONLY because for a few ppl.. And their other clannies have nothing to do with it.. They are only against the other clan because they want to be a loyal companion in thier clan.. We all know that there is some sort of quirl betwean a few of the staff members, and the memberable Cyric.. Now in Draco Honoris there are not a whole lot of people in that clan.. So I assume they are all very close in a way, and of course, loyal friends of Cyric.. And they will stick by his side until the end.. How do I know this? It's commun with clans that have small people in them..

Now for the Resistance, they have SO many powerful and popular chars in that clan! Like Kalypso, Tadpole, Stotic, etc etc. They do work hard in a way, yet alot of them are very rude, no offense to the clan or anything. But it is the truth and they need to work on that if you ask me.. So when they see someone that's a "enemy" to them even though they don't know why they are, they will do anything to pk him/her if they have a chance to. And they will be rude to them if they are in a clan that is against them..

Now, if you ask me this "war or battle" or whatever you want to call this is REALLY only betwean a certain amount of people, and not the whole clan.

Reasoning can be a fine weapon in these situations.. Not trying to cut down people, which I am very ashamed of the Resistance if I may say for doing this.. All your going to do is make it worse for you.. And Draco Honoris, I know these people are the kind of people who want to help the newbs or infact anyone arch or not.. But if you ask me, you are not using the code Draco..

I took a peep at your site just for the heck of it, and I saw that you said As a clan you praise Knowledge, Justice, Cooperation, Truth, and Wisdom. The members of Draco Honoris will conduct themselves Honorably, Virtuously, with the utmost Dignity, and Respect, and will be polite and helpful to the best of your abilities...

I'm not saying that you guys arn't any of this, I'm just saying that you need to look over this sometime, and see what your really doing.. Is it honorable to keep on fighting with the Resistance for minor things? Are you guys cooperating with them? Is it wise to keep on fighting with the staff? Are you polite to the best of your ability? Donot get me wrong, I am not saying you guys are not doing this, I'm just saying that you need to look at your words for once and try to really use them. Which I'm sure you do, but if not.. Try to.. And I think that means to the Resistance to..

You people need to look at situations and observe alot more! It would help alot, really would.. Now, think to yourselves for a moment..

"Is there a reason to fight over a simple thing?" "Is it minor?" "Is there a reason to cut someone down like this?" "Should I cut down *such & such clan* so I can be loyal  to my *such & such clan* even though I don't know why we're enemies to the other clan?"

I donot know what else to say really, but this whole thing is very immature and very childish.. And I'm sure alot of people are gonna flame me or try to cut me down or whatever in this thread, but the truth is I don't care.. I'm saying what I think and I believe, if you donot like it then I am deeply sorry..  

These are my thoughts about this.. You can take these advice if you want and do whatever with it for all I care.. But really think about all of this guys.. I mean, really think about it..

Thanks for your time..

                                                         ~§éékér,

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Amy on 03/17/03 at 06:02:15
Seeker,

Very well said, but reasons for the battles between the two clans- at least from the point of myself and my companions, run much deeper than what may appear.  

I speak for myself (as well as my alts), maybe remaining angry is not what we should be doing.  Anger and vengeance are not good things at all.. But, on the other hand... when a clan directly opposes what we try to protect, to be true to ourselves, taking action is what we must do at times.  

For example, the war that started this thread... A very close friend of myself and Crushers, were being attacked relentlessly and asked for our assistance. Being honorbound, and loyal to those that we call friends, allies, and fellow clansmen, twas our duty to try and assist them in any way we could.  

I know not who you are in this world we all occupy (NM) . but let me ask ye, if you counted on Draco Honoris as an ally... and you were alone being slaughtered, would ye wish us to say "Oh no.. can't jump in. you are fighting The Resistance, therefore you are on your own"? .. or.. say as we did.. "Stay alive and safe, we shall be right there to aid you the best we can immediately!"?

I am not condemning you nor saying your words are wrong, am merely explaining the situation in which this small battle was brought on. I am hoping you, as well as others understand that when we give our word to support another, we take it very seriously.

If you do nay understand that, I am sorry.. we are who we are.. we must be true to ourselves and what we believe in first and foremost.

<bows her head and departs to train>
~Amy of Draco Honoris

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Seeker on 03/17/03 at 06:28:02
I am very pleased with your post. Glad to see someone post something that's polite. :) And I truly understand.. This was just my thoughts about it, becuase I know theres more to this whole fight betwean you guys.. I just know it. And I'm just really saying becareful when your in situations like these.. It may grow even worse then it is..  

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Amy on 03/17/03 at 06:33:41
Thank you.. we are aware of the dangers :)

Sometimes, when you fight for something such as "good against evil" there is no choice but to face danger ... Is good to know even those we know not on a personal level support us and wish us the best.

<smiles and bows her head once more>
~Amy of Draco Honoris

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by pfftttt on 03/17/03 at 06:40:32
Seeker:  The conflict as you called it between TR and DH I can assure you is not about staff members in TR vs Bishop and his loyal clannies.  There was been well for lack of a better way to phrase it, bad blood between TR and DH long before that.  
   I will not attempt to speak for anyone but myself.  I will not go into specifics really.  But for me instead it stems from the interactions that I have had with DH members.  I treat them with the same respect or lack there of in this case that they show me and my clan.  I would never attempt to make anyone cry over a game, which (yes it was probably ic) I was told by one of the DH members quite a while ago, that this persons was going to make life so miserable in nm for one of my friends that it was going to make her cry.  I got a tad pissy about this person saying that even ig, because that is something I feel has no honor.  When I expressed that to that person I was then told that I was also now going to be made to cry by this person.
   As you can see Seeker I have far greater reasons to behave the way that I do to some of DH that goes far beyond anything to do with sysops.  I have had as far as I know no personal dealing say with Amy so I have no problem with her, the same goes for some of the other DH members.  
  Will I attack DH well yes. Well they attack me? Since they have I'm going to safely say yes. Do I worry how that makes me look to other people? No, and I'm not going to.  I play the game how I want to period.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Zephie on 03/17/03 at 09:00:01
Only reason I ever started pking Draco to begin with was Crusher. I'm not sure if you remember, Bishop..but before then I never attacked you or your clannies, in fact I was friends with most of them (Julius, Kelevandros,ChaosHound) I use to share with someone and they pked Crusher one day, and ever since that day Crusher hated the character Kalypso. Not because I pk innocents, but because the character pked HIM. Pffffft, not sure if you remember this day but Crusher pretty much insulted me because someone on my character killed him. I then informed him I no longer shared with that person and my intentions weren't to pk Draco (I actually considered Valentine somewhat of a friend, Bishop I never really spoke to but he was ok) I had seen them running around in the sewers and forest before and never had attacked them or their party.

The day Crusher found out who my low level thief was, he began to pk it for absolutely no reason (Even though I had previously told him it was not my mission to hurt him or his clan.) I then decided I would pk him from now on, because he was so stubborn not to realize what I was saying was true. Crusher contradicts himself way to much. Insults me, threatens my clannies out of game and just plainly annoys everyone. Yeah, I'm a pker, accept that you aren't going to change me or my clan. You're like the (insert religious fanatic here) who wont ever shut up. Please accept it already.

Now those are my mortal issues with the clan Draco Honoris.

As for staff issues, I really don't think there's anything except the fact that they constantly blame me for Cyric's early retirement. They don't even give me a chance, or TRY to atleast give me credit for the stuff I am doing. I think Cyric was good staff- was he a good admin? I don't know, wasn't staff with him long enough to find this out. He always answered my questions/concerns. I would really like this matter closed because I don't see why it keeps bringing brought up in clan discussions. I don't hate Cyric. I don't hate Bishop. Although I dislike Draco Honoris very much.


Finally, (hehe, long post) I don't hate any of you out of game even though you may feel that way towards me. I do respect that you apologized in discussion Bishop for your behavior- And I apologize if I have every "insulted" you in my posts but I haven't done it intentionally. I posted these battles (dh battle, cg battle) because I thought clan forum needed SOMETHING else besides "please join my clan" etc etc. Rivalries are fun, I mean where would most of us be without them?

Crusher, I don't think you should be insulting or threatning people out of game. It's wrong, and please stop sending those mean memo's to Fase  :P He doesn't have to pound his salt (lol!!)


PS: Draco Honoris is NOT the only clan we are at 'war' with, just so happens that DH are the only ones who make a big deal about it.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Pandilex on 03/17/03 at 09:22:11
2 things

1) Posting of battles
I see nothing wrong with this, it's a chance to show your power and have some fun. You have to accept there's no objective in the game,  there are no rules for playing killing or acting evil or good. If you dislike a game where you can run around and be slaughtered (or indeed slaughter people yourself) then go play another game like ragnarok where there is no pking. If someone kills you then you shouldn't go bad mouthing them with insults, especially not personal ones. If you're nice to people you might even find they don't pk you again! And before you laugh at me for that statement I've played various muds, including nightmist, and I'm less inclined to slaughter the same person twice if they are polite. It doesn't always work of course.

2) Valentine stop spamming the boards with mindless pap, if you don't like a thread then don't bother to reply with 'this post is boring'.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by wonderful_nightmare on 03/17/03 at 10:33:57

on 03/15/03 at 18:50:07, Zephie wrote:
You were fighting Illuminati first, not The Resistance......Miles walked in and saw the fight and decided to join in.

In the log - I only put TR kills and TR deaths, as I cannot see who dies and who kills from the other clans.


i didn't read all replies but it's kinda lame the way you post it cuz now it looks like tadpole took out everybody on his own.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Zekhia on 03/17/03 at 13:46:37
I took out DH on my own....Illuminati was fighting Koldfire and his clan....then Dh popped up and killed zekhia and then i took over from there  ;D

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Seeker on 03/17/03 at 14:28:39
I think I have proven my point here.. The story that you, Kalypso told me that is.. Simple things like this can really grow into something larger.. I am not sure who is in the wrong, maybe I do..

pffttt, I do understand your point.. But it really is simple.. For one no one, but NO ONE can make you miserable in this game! Maybe people that are hackers or whatever but other then that no one can.. You play, you have fun, you smile, and you go on with life.. Mark these words if you all may..

And this person that I am hearing is only one now. Crush or whoever. But is he really the whole clan? Hhhmmmmm? It sounds like to me that he is.. So I have proven my point earlier.. This "battle" is only between a certain amount of people and not their whole clan.. The clan will of course follow the leader, and they will be loyal to the leader, which I am not saying it's a bad thing... Just becareful who your loyal to.. I think I am done for now, thanks for your time..

                                                     ~Seeker,

P.S. Pandilex: I'm not trying to be rude or anything to you but be more polite to Valantine or Bishop.. Why? Because they are normal NM players now, and if a normal NM player posted something like what Valantine posted, would you make that remark? I'm not going to say that you have none, but tolerance should be #1 with the staff, which I am sure you have..  

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Bishop on 03/17/03 at 16:04:21
Our conflict with TR is simply that in our opinion the clan is evil - they pk others for no reason, the victims often don't even have an opportunity to speak, run, or retaliate. We have chosen to battle the evil of this kind of random, senseless pking.  With that choice we were guaranteed certain powerful enemies, that can't be helped.  Sometimes the details of this get lost in heated arguments and many other things, but the foundation of the opposition is the same.  We simply choose to oppose ourselves with any clan that encourages (or turns a blind-eye) to random (reasonless) pking and rude or vulgar behavior.  

No, we are not flawless or anything.  We try as best we can.  And we get plenty of abuse for it (such as the speech of Crusher everyone keeps bringing up - he's had plenty of such verbal insults directed at him for months now; he snapped and blew up a little, that's all it was - happens all the time and doesn't need to be posted on the forum).  We accept the abuse and overwhelming strength of our opposition because we believe in what we are battling for.  I usually refer to it as 'our burden' - we suffer so that others might be able to travel from NM to Arilin and not be pk'd (if only because we are the one's being pk'd at the time).

It has nothing to do with any personal problems (though I cannot speak specifically for Kalypso, or the animosity between Kalypso and Crusher), nor does it have anything to do with Cyric or staff - I've put that behind me.

We've accepted, even announced, enmity with clans that we consider evil.  I don't like posts like this, not because it depicts a battle between rival clans, but because it does not portray the facts (like the fact that the kills count started in the middle of an existing fight and included more than 3 clans in all) and is used to verbally abuse/degrade individuals for no good reason.  Our Opposition to 'evil' in NM is the 'Role' we choose to play as a group.

On a side note, with all the bs all over the forum, why do you (Pandilex) choose to single out Valentine for speaking her thoughts about thread like this.  If you think it qualifies as a breech of the forum TOS, delete it (just like any other post).

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Momba on 03/17/03 at 16:44:30
I actually sat and read this whole thread. This is a joke. DH has said that they are against evil and TR is evil. Therefore they will continue to pk members of TR when they feel the time is right for battle. I suggest we pay no more attention to this small group of misfits other then to continue to hunt them down and make game play for them as miserable as possible.
Shortly after our run in at the Gnoll Fortress I contacted Bishop, Amy and Crusher. After the way he(Crusher)snapped I kinda felt sorry for the guy. I know clannies call me weak, but that day he really snapped. I suggested laying our diffrence to the side. No becomeing allies or best freinds. Just simply ending the battle. My part of that battle was to seek them out each time I saw them logged. Crusher more so then the other since Bishop doesn`t leave the clan house and they won`t let me in.
Amy remained true to her character and said that she was loyal to her clan and that she would stand by them in any decision they made. Far enough.
Bishop to remained firm in his decision to stand behind Crusher. We hashed over old battles with DH and a close freind of mine. And really got no where with the conversation. He did however advise me to contact Crusher and state my intentions to him. Again far enough.
Now we get to the bonehead of the group. Crusher in my option is a flat out idiot. He in no way wanted to end the little battle claiming he was getting stronger each day yadda yadda yadda. He made it clear that the battle wasn't over.
So my suggestion is this: Pandilex has said that it is o.k. to post clan battles under the clan forum. We start a thread and post the beat downs we put on em and let the battles speak for themselves. Well that's if Isyng doesn`t remove the ones he feels tarinsh the good reputation that certain members of Draco Honorless have.
I know I have the option to not read these threads, but who can resit. I personally am tired of Bishop_Slick_Tongue and his better then thou BS and that bird he has over his shoulder(Valentine) who pipes in with her comments from time to time when she's not cleaning the clan house or licking the wounds of her fallen warriors. The only person who is even consistant in the clan is Amy. The girl can flat out roleplay and knows the diffrence between "in game" and "in real life". Unlike some.

Start a thread. Post the beat downs.And leave the trash talk for the playing field. And in closing if anyone is interested in the FULL text titled,"The Day Crusher Snap" Ryan from TR was nice enough to save and sent it to me. I would have to email it to you since Isyng insist on removing it from the forum threads.

Draco Honorless Hunter

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by pfftttt on 03/17/03 at 17:07:32
Seeker: My points were just this: I personally have others reason for not liking some DH then anything to do with what u were saying in your first post (the sysop things).  I know know one can make me feel miserable in a game, that wasnt what I was saying.  I was saying that the specific person I was talking about it my example, said he was going to make one of my friends miserable, make her cry.  Then he also said he was going to make it one of his goals in game to make me cry.  If you cant understand my point in regards to that, just think how you would feel if someone told you that they were going to make your friends cry.  Unless you are heartless that would not please you.  I just using this as an example I have other reasons for not liking some other DH.  But the bottom line Seeker is that THEY declared war on us a long time ago.  Do a /who Crusher when you're in game.  

Bishop: I fully admit some of my clannies and I pk.  Not all of them do,  it is their choice to do so or not to do so.  As for the rude and vulgar behavior, that goes both ways.  Here I'm willing to do this: If you want to talk about the things you dont like about my clan, sorta have an open dialoge thing, by all means page me ig.  I am more then willing to talk to you or any of your clannies about anything.   :)

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Valentine on 03/17/03 at 17:28:22
1. I will speak my mind when I so choose, and I will expect the exact same treatment from staff as the rest of the community receives. This does not include continuously singling me out with rude comments. That should go without saying.

2. I leave the clan house plenty when the opportunity presents itself. I have a busy life, therefore I am limited in how much time I spend questing. Get over it. Such statements regarding my game time are not insults just because you decide they are.

3. Outside the game, I am quite indifferent to 99% of the players. In the game, that percentage is closer to 70%. I don't hold grudges against people I don't know, because frankly I don't care. I find it interesting that people who have never spoken to me in-game or out choose to dislike me. Indifference takes so much less energy.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Bishop on 03/17/03 at 17:42:21
I leave the clan house plenty - and solo most of the time.  Don't blame the fact that you cannot find, or catch me, on my locations  :p

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by AlecxZeck-P1C on 03/17/03 at 18:17:21

on 03/17/03 at 00:30:43, Amy wrote:
Secondly, Draco Honoris does not attack parties just in a certain area. When an attack is warranted and needed we do so wherever we happen to be at the moment or wherever a friend, ally, or other clan member needs assistance.



  You mean like you attacked my party, when they were completely defenseless, with Torches?  I just thought that was funny.  Apparently they PK the ones they -think- they can, area or not.  They apparently -do- pick on the weak.  I think that that post should be deleted, because of the proof I posses!  Muaha..  Silly Draco Honoris.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Zephie on 03/17/03 at 19:26:09
Draco is like any other clan to me, I will pk them as much as I like, and so will my clannies.


Case closed.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Isyng on 03/17/03 at 19:29:53
I didn't think there'd need to be an explanation for removal of a post that violated the tos, I'm sure you'd see it in a whole different light if the victim of the violation was yourself.  I don't appreciate the comments made towards me in your post momba, not only do I not know the person to whom the post I deleted was aimed at, but I also don't really know any members of draco honoris.  It's true that I was on staff with Cyric -but- I pretty much keep myself to myself.. I can't say that I really 'know' any of the current staff even, bar a few.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Pandilex on 03/17/03 at 19:40:33
If you have a complaint about a user of the nature that was displayed previously on this board you should not post it, instead you should e-mail it to someone who can do something about (a member of staff) - however only send an e-mail if it is _serious_ , for example if someone said a bad word once then it's not worth spending time digging it up, these people are usually caught in game - contact staff in game if this happens. If it is more serious feel free to e-mail me, if you're not sure if it is serious or not just send an e-mail anyway and if I can do something about it then I will.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Amy on 03/18/03 at 00:00:40
ooc just to make clear.. Draco has not said at any time during this thread that we were mistreated by staff nor was this post started by us.  This post was not blamed on staff by draco nor were the actions of war between clans spoken by draco as if it had anything at all to do with staff. We can not control comments made by others whether they are true or false.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Stigmata on 03/18/03 at 09:43:51
Believe it or not, I actually remember the day when the forum was a useful tool for playing nightmist, information could be obtained, items traded and new clans could be set up relatively easily. Now all I see is the forum being used for pointless arguments between players and staff that should really know better.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Seeker on 03/18/03 at 15:02:34
I fully agree with Stigmata..

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Crusher2 on 03/19/03 at 01:02:53
I won't dignify any of this by commenting. I take my lumps. I won't post those I give in return.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Bean on 03/22/03 at 08:08:50
I Cant wait for the day where TR get obliterated In battle, and doesnt post it. Because we all know the winner will, And I well be there to laugh my hardest...

TR Is getting very arrogant, Yes they are powerful, and Yes they Have a large monopoly over most GOOD training areas. But you just make yourself look bad when you have to brag about a couple of archies laying waste upon a couple level 25's and under.

If you want to brag then show me one archie taking out 30. I will be impressed And will retract my statement. Until then dont brag about things that are so trivial.

Yeah yeah go ahead and flame me, Its not like it will matter, I've injured your pride and now you feel the need to strike back at me, Well you know what? Go ahead. Take your best shot, You can pk me as much as you want, You can flame me all over the forum, But it still wont matter, I'll be happy in the fact that eventually the command structure of your entire clan will collapse in upon itself, and TR will be nothing but a memory.

/rant off.

Try to be Civil, and Mature with your flames, Its the least you can do.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Zephie on 03/22/03 at 18:59:12
your definition of a rant amuses me.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by pfftttt on 03/22/03 at 23:55:16
*wonders just how a new player knows how TR is "getting" very arrogant?* :-*

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Zekhia on 03/23/03 at 05:02:24
I like cookies.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Tender_Foot on 03/23/03 at 10:39:19
most of you i know are VERY arrogant. though i have been, and still am friends with about 5-10 members of tr, i will say that not all are.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Bean on 03/24/03 at 02:46:26
Because my post count is 8 im a new player?  You have MUCH To learn my friend.

Zeph, I usually Put /rant off after posts that I Take no time to plan any 'Witty remarks' Because then I have an excuse for stupid mistakes :P

Sheesh

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by pfftttt on 03/24/03 at 05:24:41
Bean you stated in a thread on the discussion forum that you are or were pretending to be a new player.  That was what I was getting at.

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Zephie on 03/24/03 at 05:34:45
*hugs Bean*

You're so cute  :P

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Bean on 03/24/03 at 06:14:25
Woohoooo Im cute. Hey wait...  ::)

Oh And pfftttt I fixed my post, It was supposed to say I was new to the boards... I musta Been mega tired or something... Jeeze I need sleep.

IM CUTE!  :P

Can I beat Some TR members up with my lvl 2 barb? It'll be fun! Lol

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Zephie on 03/24/03 at 06:29:57
Sure, where do you wanna meet? maybe you can post in on forums after too  :P

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Bean on 03/25/03 at 03:11:09
Hmmm Just lemme rally all the troops I can

*Runs as far as possible, Then runs more*

There we go. Im ready  ::)

Title: Re: Battle in Forest (Tadpole VS DH)
Post by Zekhia on 03/25/03 at 11:02:30
(to zephie)  :(



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