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Aidon
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Human Bonus
« on: 09/26/03 at 03:10:00 » |
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As has been brought up before, humans have kind of got the short end of the stick when it comes to racial bonuses, so here is what I propose:
For all races there are 12 possible stats for each individual stat, thus making a certain chance of getting nice overall stats (as seen in discussion forum). My idea is that the amount of possible stats for humans be lessened thus giving a human a more likely chance of having better overall stats. This would give them a slight edge and playability not brought by the other races.
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Re: Human Bonus
« Reply #1 on: 09/26/03 at 03:27:24 » |
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here here humans are pretty usless in my opinion atm somethin should be done to give them a bost
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Re: Human Bonus
« Reply #2 on: 09/26/03 at 03:30:46 » |
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I was thinking since there current chance for a 6 stat crit is 1 in 2,985,984 (12^6), then maybe change it to where there is 10 possible chances for stats, making a human have a 1 in 1,000,000 (10^6) chance of getting a 6 stat.
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Re: Human Bonus
« Reply #3 on: 09/26/03 at 03:54:36 » |
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Re: Human Bonus
« Reply #4 on: 09/26/03 at 04:05:51 » |
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I think the idea of improving humans are great. But would putting more decent statted humans in the game actually improve the race?
Humans are a decent race for thieves and rangers in my option. I think that increasing the dex and charisma by 1 would balance them out.
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Re: Human Bonus
« Reply #5 on: 09/26/03 at 04:08:39 » |
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IMO the humans stats are not the actual problem, they are fine for almost every class, except perhaps a mage. To really focus on what the problem with them is, is to nail this racial bonus once and for all. Even if their stats are adjusted (which I don't believe is necessary), they will still be without a racial bonus.
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Re: Human Bonus
« Reply #6 on: 09/26/03 at 04:24:46 » |
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Whaddabout half elves? 
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Re: Human Bonus
« Reply #7 on: 09/26/03 at 04:48:12 » |
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As far as I know, half elves do have a racial bonus.
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Re: Human Bonus
« Reply #8 on: 09/26/03 at 04:54:39 » |
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i say give em 18 wis and 20 dex
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Re: Human Bonus
« Reply #9 on: 09/26/03 at 04:58:39 » |
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O.K. I was off. Deval took the time to explain what Aidon and him ment by a race bonus. Such as halflings having the extra 7 armor and so forth.
I do see where Humans get the shaft in regards to that type of bonus. And Aidon's suggestion is a step in the right direction. But again I just don`t think the answer is making them easier to roll.
What do you think of a +30% chance of spotting convert/invis crits.
Or a greater immunity to posions, say +40% or so.
These ideas are off of the top of my head. I will put my thinking cap on and see if I can come up with something better.
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Re: Human Bonus
« Reply #10 on: 09/26/03 at 05:04:07 » |
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half elves racial bonus was they would have gotten points easier, they arent being put into the game, hence half elves need work sooner, in my eyes
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Re: Human Bonus
« Reply #11 on: 09/26/03 at 05:23:18 » |
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that is what human's bonus was going to be. (i agree..and do not believe humans really need diff. stats.)
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Re: Human Bonus
« Reply #12 on: 09/26/03 at 06:13:09 » |
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To keep in track with humans all around(ness) why not give them a +4 base exp bonus to take into account there flexibility, adaptability and ease of learning. Also giving half-elves 2.5% damage bonus in woods and +2 base exp bonus.
Essentially this would work like every time they hit a monster it would add +4 onto the base exp of that monster.
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Normally when you hit a monster you get...
Damage x Base exp = Exp gained
So lets say a human fighter hit a Sand Spider for 40
40 x 80 = 3200 Exp gained
If they were to get this bonus +4 base exp gained it would be..
40 x 84 = 3360 Exp gained
Not that much of a difference.. But since it comes with every monster and every hit.. It would add up and work out to be a very useful racial advantage.
Edited the % symbols out of the description to solve any further "confusion".
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Re: Human Bonus
« Reply #13 on: 09/26/03 at 07:41:47 » |
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Works for me.
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Re: Human Bonus
« Reply #14 on: 09/26/03 at 15:33:14 » |
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For your idea there Archie, take off the % and it will work. Just +4 xp base. 5 seems to be a better number though because it's an easy number.
4% of 3200=128 3200+128=3328 which is not 3360
Sorry heh, just had to point that out.
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Re: Human Bonus
« Reply #15 on: 09/26/03 at 20:21:37 » |
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on 09/26/03 at 15:33:14, CPG wrote:| For your idea there Archie, take off the % and it will work. Just +4 xp base. |
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If you look to my example all I did use was the +4 exp, there was actually no % in the example.. It was just the symbol "%" used to imply it’s a small bonus of a greater number, not actually a dividend of the number in hundredths.
on 09/26/03 at 15:33:14, CPG wrote:| 5 seems to be a better number though because it's an easy number. |
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It would need to be an even number.. You know like 2,4,6,8..ect. That way the racial bonus that is applied to half-elves wouldn’t become a fractional bonus. Since they get half of the Elf bonus and half of the human bonus.
on 09/26/03 at 15:33:14, CPG wrote:4% of 3200=128 3200+128=3328 which is not 3360
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Also had you followed the example you would have noticed it was 40 as damage done, and 80 as original base exp... So with the +4 exp added onto it, it would be 40 x 84. Which does equal 3360, please read more carefully before you go on "pointing out" my fictional math errors.
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Re: Human Bonus
« Reply #16 on: 09/26/03 at 20:31:46 » |
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you did have a percentage symbol, implying you were adding 4% to their exp gains, you just typed it out wrong, nothing wrong with what he said 
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Re: Human Bonus
« Reply #17 on: 09/26/03 at 20:42:40 » |
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Percentage has more meanings then one; it doesn’t always imply a dividend of the number in hundredths. Maybe I should just remove the small % symbol to stop you guys from getting confused when you read over the very simple mathematical equation of 40 x 84.
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Re: Human Bonus
« Reply #18 on: 09/26/03 at 20:55:31 » |
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Then a simple bunny which gives 1xp, now gives 5?
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Re: Human Bonus
« Reply #19 on: 09/26/03 at 20:58:20 » |
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No because a bunny gives 1 exp for a kill, not for damage.. Since the formula works off of the damage x exp formula his exp wouldn’t be changed. All exp gained from the actual killing blow dealt to a monster wouldn’t be changed.
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