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account types (anti-theft measure)
« on: 06/15/03 at 00:36:56 »
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i thought this might make having other people train a crit for you less risky. it might also make sharing less risky also. might as well just call them temporary or secured accounts.
 
this account type would be pretty much the same as the accounts we have now except a few extra features would be used.
 
1. time limit
when you create an account you must decide how long the account will exist. for example, if you are having someone do some work for you, you might want the account to expire after 30 days. after the account expires the crits in the account return to the account they were in before they were put there.
 
2. no transfering.
once a crit is transferred to this account type it cannot be transferred anywhere else. you have to just wait until the account expires to get your crit back into your primary account.
 
2. no rolling.
there's just no reason for it since any crit created would be deleted when the account expires.
 
3. you cannot change your password.
so it's best to make it something really simple. since the password is unchangable you cannot lose access to your crit.
 
i figure since it's impossible to stop people from sharing and paying other people to train crits it would be a good idea to minimize the ways you can be ripped off. this way no one can run off with a crit.
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Re: account types (anti-theft measure)
« Reply #1 on: 06/15/03 at 01:09:23 »
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 I think this is an awesome idea. The time limit might not work, but I don`t see why the other suggestions can`t. Possibly add the option to create this account from a user account.
 Another idea would be to allow transfers of crits from this account but making it so each user had to enter a password to verify the transfer. This would eliminate having to tie staff up with these types of transfers
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« Reply #2 on: 06/15/03 at 09:48:39 »
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well it's a good idea but....... let's say i shared with someone and decided not to share with him/her/it no more but the time limit isn't due for the next 30 day's i then need to transfer my crits to my old account and i can't Sad  
 
so i suggest some option where you can "delete" the account and the crits in it are send to their old account.  
 
the only problem there might be that if you shared for like 3 or more months you might ahve forgotten/lost the account name and pw of the old account. and it'll be rpetty hard then to convince staff that's your account (specially when your not a well known player that staff might know Cheesy)
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« Reply #3 on: 06/15/03 at 10:21:24 »
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Now what stops the person who's crit is being trained from not paying?  Undecided
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« Reply #4 on: 06/15/03 at 12:00:15 »
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Nothing, but it stops the person stealing the crit.
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« Reply #5 on: 06/15/03 at 14:19:23 »
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on 06/15/03 at 10:21:24, Bill wrote:
Now what stops the person who's crit is being trained from not paying?  Undecided

 
this is better then the current way :d now atleast you know someone gets his crit Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: 06/15/03 at 16:09:56 »
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this leaves not recieving payment and possible theft of items from the crit itself as problems, but this is a good start Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: 06/15/03 at 17:29:15 »
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perhaps if the account was created through an existing account you could use your personal account's password to delete the secured account and then all the crits go back to thier place. the most important part of the idea remains that no one can take your crits.
 
i have no idea how it would work technically but it might be a good idea to be able to enter and create the secured account through your primary account.
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« Reply #8 on: 06/15/03 at 20:29:50 »
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If this were put in by the staff im fairly certain they would punish anyone who stole items off of crits and such... wouldnt they?
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« Reply #9 on: 06/16/03 at 05:27:11 »
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everyone's got a different story about what's thiers and how they got it and how it's not actually stealing or how they were 'owed' this and that. so i'd wager staff involvement would be optional.
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« Reply #10 on: 06/16/03 at 13:34:52 »
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i suggested something like this but JLH said he does not like the idea of sharing so it will not be put in.....but it would be great if it was put in......
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« Reply #11 on: 06/16/03 at 16:28:30 »
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well that's the point of this actually, whether you like it or not people will never stop sharing and handing crits over to be trained. something like this would give people no excuses for losing crits.
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« Reply #12 on: 06/17/03 at 07:05:52 »
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Staff always says "Staff does not support sharing accounts or having others train your crits."
 
which makes sense to me...dont share if you dont belive the person is completely trustable, and others training your crits you'd have to trust also.
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« Reply #13 on: 06/17/03 at 17:22:43 »
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thts just it the staff want no part of it if they don't support it then there is no way of implementing it.......I have to agree to the fact tht yes it does get a little unfair if we let others train our crits and then go round bossing others who have tried hard to get to where they are but it would help a lot if we could share and not be afraid of others stealing i had one stolen so i know how it feels........
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« Reply #14 on: 06/21/03 at 17:58:06 »
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It is like everything else in the game not supported, you come up with your own ideas and hope and prey it doesnt go pear shaped.......i personally wouldnt share anyone with anyone as i like to think all the work in my account is my work......... all i would say is its your risk, i dont think staff would impliment it but you never know, i know they dont support it but they also dont like annoying memos from people who have had crits stolen, So maybe if it becomes a massive issue then it would be the lesser of the two evils to do something like what has been suggested, just my two cents on the matter  Cool
 
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« Reply #15 on: 06/21/03 at 18:58:54 »
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i only suggest it because those inclined to share and hire crit trainers are going to do it anyways. if this were implemented it wouldn't entail any greater responsibility from the staff to the players but it would minimize possible losses for the players.
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« Reply #16 on: 06/23/03 at 14:37:25 »
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Maybe a 'level' counter too, so when the character is, say, level 20, the character gets returned to the former account.
 
Edit: Small wording change.
 
so when it's :to: so when the character is
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« Reply #17 on: 01/09/04 at 07:51:36 »
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i'm just bumbing this since sharing is vogue again.
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« Reply #18 on: 01/09/04 at 13:52:54 »
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If there should be something done with accounts to stop theft JLH could make it so you have an option to make your account accesible by your IP only. It won't work for everyone, but in all the time i playd i never used a different comp...
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« Reply #19 on: 01/09/04 at 16:53:16 »
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I for one use more than one comp as I live with my mom and dad in different houses during the week and they are both on dialup so you couldn't even add both those ip to the allow list. I'm afraid ip wouldn't do.
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