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« on: 06/13/03 at 21:47:33 » |
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I dont know what happend to the stamina but its all screwed up now...i have watched alot of duels one of them being a archmaster halfing ranger vs a 27 pally and the pally wins everytime now just cause stamina trick cant be utilized anymore....that was the only way if you were outnumbered you could still put up a fight and drop a few people if you timed it correctly...now your just ****ed.... *shrugs*
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Re: Stamina
« Reply #1 on: 06/13/03 at 23:03:02 » |
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At the expense of sounding like I never exploited a bug in the game I will ask
What was the stamina trick?
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Re: Stamina
« Reply #2 on: 06/13/03 at 23:25:09 » |
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Rangers: Rapid Fire, have three stam, count to 9, rapid fire x2, bam bam, = 6 hits.
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Re: Stamina
« Reply #3 on: 06/14/03 at 02:47:15 » |
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I thought I was doing something wrong cuz it didn't work for me anymore. Good to see I'm not the only one who it won't work for now.
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Re: Stamina
« Reply #4 on: 06/14/03 at 06:35:04 » |
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well will a staff post on this to fill everyone in what was done and the reasoning of it pls
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Re: Stamina
« Reply #5 on: 06/14/03 at 09:06:48 » |
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Rangers could do it from 4 stam. I'm guessing this was changed because it was a simple flaw in the coding of stamina. Which I can see the point in changing it.
However, this flaw in stamina gave an extra level of skill in fighting. Which evidently has disappeared. Now it is basically 'click click click' and hope for the best. In my opinion the new 'changed stamina' has and will promote hit and runs more so than ever before.
With my mage I used to have a go at taking on parties as a sole crit. If I tried that now, I would get slaughtered, by even a crew of low level crits. I would have to Beam with 4 stam, and Invis with my last stam, by which time they would have healed. Or I could risk using 5 stam, which rarely kills anything with 12+ wisdom, leaving myself defensless and getting smoked.
Also parties were encouraged before, as with more crits in a party, the faster your stamina regenrated (Correct if I'm wrong) so training would be faster. Also bosses take a lot more time, even with large parties.
Those who didnt know how to do the trick, would have to learn how to do it. Adding a little bonus to the experienced players. I would suggest changing stamina to what it was before.
Some bugs actually aid the games level of enjoyment and skill. These dont unbalance the game. So I personally cant see a problem with it.
If there was a major problem with it, can JLH or Pandilex post the reasoning behind it?
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Re: Stamina
« Reply #6 on: 06/14/03 at 11:04:42 » |
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afaik, it was an unintensional skill people discovered they could use to their advantage which was not put there for that purpuse, so was removed.
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Re: Stamina
« Reply #7 on: 06/14/03 at 11:39:12 » |
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Doesn't matter if its 'unintensional' skill or not, it was still a skill -everybody- could learn, it shouldnt have been removed for a 'purpuse'. As Eternyte posted, its just 'click click click' hope for the best.
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Re: Stamina
« Reply #8 on: 06/15/03 at 00:19:41 » |
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I agree, its taken away the little bit of strategy and skill required in a fight/duel. I really hope they change it back to how it was.
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Re: Stamina
« Reply #9 on: 06/15/03 at 01:12:46 » |
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* Epic Holds up a sign saying "Bring back the old stamina"
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Re: Stamina
« Reply #10 on: 06/17/03 at 22:11:47 » |
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Pandilex or JLH wanna post on this?
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Re: Stamina
« Reply #11 on: 06/18/03 at 03:51:34 » |
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the game was not designed with people using more than 6 stamina in mind, therefore as a result of using more, people have more power than we wanted and could pretty much 1 round any other person (except maybe a berserker, unless some extra spells were used). therefore this bug was fixed.
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Re: Stamina
« Reply #12 on: 06/18/03 at 05:02:32 » |
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Aw man, that wierd JLH guy is posting on forums again 
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Re: Stamina
« Reply #13 on: 06/18/03 at 06:02:10 » |
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Mm well like i stated earlier and many other people have thers no skill in fights anymore really and even tho it prolly doesnt matter theres about 10 people that posted on here thinking it should be changed back...*shrugs*
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Re: Stamina
« Reply #14 on: 06/18/03 at 12:43:39 » |
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that's because they like to be able to kill anyone instantly.
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Re: Stamina
« Reply #15 on: 06/18/03 at 22:35:11 » |
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Mmm, well i dno...like i said i watched alotta duels between a 27 pally and a 30 ranger and the pally won everytime and back with the old stamina you could deal alot more damage and stand a better chance, not to mention if your outnumbered say...1 vs 3 even you can take out the whole other party and thats nice for people that dont have as many crits as other people or people that just cant run that many due to their comp being to laggy
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Re: Stamina
« Reply #16 on: 06/19/03 at 01:59:03 » |
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Only reason that paladin is giving you grief, is that staff caved to whineys players complaints, and restored Major Heal/Aid back to its former glory on them. GAAAYYYY.
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Re: Stamina
« Reply #17 on: 06/19/03 at 04:05:09 » |
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I find this totally hilarious. The same people who are complaining about this stamina run thing. Are the same ones who complain about "newbs" complaining about more important things than this...im sorry...but i find it very funny.
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Re: Stamina
« Reply #18 on: 06/19/03 at 04:41:48 » |
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Same people that complained about "newbs"?...pls show me what i said about "newbs" or what anyone else that posted on here said about newbs....and as for find something else more important to complain about...i'd say this is up on the list of things to complain about
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Re: Stamina
« Reply #19 on: 06/19/03 at 08:24:35 » |
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is it even truly that important? so what you lost a bug in the system that let you hit more then you normally should be able too, and this takes away the strategy to battle, maybe you should start thinking up ways to oh I don't know..maybe improve the actual strategy of fighting? without exploiting a bug? Just a thought really, I mean wouldn't it make more sense then complaining about a bug, when you could possibly add a little better strategy then that?
Ok I've said my piece
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