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Editions to new spells
« on: 03/05/03 at 07:14:46 » |
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as much as i love them..
I dont understand why druids cannot cast spells in morph form?
I mean, if you cast armor spell and then gaias blessing, then morph...... you are stuck, and when armor and gaias blessing run out, you still have 3 minutes and 20 seconds left of morph....
I think the restricting skills in morph is being too restrictive, as well as locking the druid into morph form.
other than that, I must commend Pandilex for such a great job.
*was dying waiting for it*
Therefore, I think it would be fair to remove the "Stuck in Morph form" as druids should willingly be able to exit their animal state, as well as cast spells in morph form...
Thx ~ Zero
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Re: Editions to new spells
« Reply #1 on: 03/05/03 at 08:56:56 » |
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i personally like the old morph much better
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Re: Editions to new spells
« Reply #2 on: 03/05/03 at 12:13:52 » |
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Old morph wasnt so bad, but it was better than this one. Druids can morph into many things. And they dont have to use the morph they choose forever... And they should be able to unmorph whenever they want.
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Re: Editions to new spells
« Reply #3 on: 03/05/03 at 16:37:14 » |
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Old Morph was much better.
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Re: Editions to new spells
« Reply #4 on: 03/05/03 at 18:47:11 » |
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Initially I wasn’t keen on the new morph but since the other things got changed it’s grown on me a lot  . I think with the other abilities druids don’t actually need to be able to cast spells while in morph. That said 5 minutes is a long time, I say make it last for 2 ½ minutes but keep the cost and everything else the same.
All-round great update thought the second time, I salute you  .
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Re: Editions to new spells
« Reply #5 on: 03/05/03 at 20:25:42 » |
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100 mana for 2 1/2 minutes sounds a little costly to me. I agree with the fact that you could be able to unmorph when you want, keep the cost the same and the max time you cn be in it 5 minutes for the 100 mana. If the druid decides to unmorph and give up some of that time so be it, but being stuck in animal form could be a major disadvantage. Say a druid is in an animal form, and they are in the woods, along comes a pker, but they still have 4 minutes left on thier morph, all they could do is run, whereas it would seem much more useful if they could unmorph run a square and camoflauge.
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Re: Editions to new spells
« Reply #6 on: 03/05/03 at 20:28:34 » |
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The update wasn't so bad... But (as I said in other topics) they need a new healing spell (with some originality) and a summon spell. And charm would be a great spell.
But maybe the other morphs were a bit better than these... Just add something new... Change it, I dunno. And at least let us be able to unmorph
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« Reply #7 on: 03/05/03 at 22:28:34 » |
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Should morph be made so you can toggle it on and off the full heal would have to be scrapped; otherwise it could just be used for a massive healing spell (even though it would be an expensive one). I like this little twist and it would be a shame to lose it.
Personally with what druid's have got now I don’t think 100 mana is way too much for 2 1/2 minutes, but that’s just me. You get a full heal and the damage is nice:
You attacked a Black Bear with a weapon for 84 points of damage, killing it. (no enhance)
This is all down to personal taste but I think anything more will make them way too overpowered (never thought I would be saying that).
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Re: Editions to new spells
« Reply #8 on: 03/06/03 at 04:08:14 » |
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Lol, way to overpowered at what? Bear killing?
Try attacking a same lvl ranger, it doesnt work out pretty, at all.
Skills should be able to be cast while in morph, and it should be able to be cancelled, 100 mana is an insane amount to be used as a heal spell, it is almost half of a lvl 30s mp bar. that is like once per Advanced Mana Crystal, otehrwise the equivalent of a Advanced Healing potion.... I think it would be more than fair to be edited, being stuck like that is too weakening.
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Re: Editions to new spells
« Reply #9 on: 03/06/03 at 04:08:41 » |
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~~~~~~~OH and anyways, it isnt like they would be able to heal others like that, otherwise it would be pretty nice.... altho a massive waste of MP
- check clerics, they spend a LOT less and can basically do the exact same..
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Re: Editions to new spells
« Reply #10 on: 03/06/03 at 08:39:57 » |
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Exactly. The priority (in my opinion) is to get a bigger variety of morphs (most of them are felines) and the option to unmorph and switch morphs. The "heal after morph" could be removed, it is useful but since you can't unmorph, its just torture.
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Re: Editions to new spells
« Reply #11 on: 03/08/03 at 14:40:38 » |
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Well druids are seriously strong now and I find myself dealing at least equal damage to what I take with the new armor increases. I think a lot of peeps overlook what effect CRs and Sgs have and other items. And there is the question of stats… Here are two examples of a few duels I had with a good friend of mine to test what you said zero. My druid is level 28 with 18 18 20 17 18 15 with 241 hp/235 mana. I was equiped with Sgs and 2 CRs. The two crits I fought both had Sgs and 1 CR. Magik is a master fighter, 19 X 19 19 17 X, Haborym an arch Ranger, 19 X 19 18 19 15 (both without SGs equip.). It’s worth remembering I have only 4 stamina, the fighter has 6 and the ranger 5. Here’s what happened:
Countdown: 1
Countdown: GO!
Haborym rapidly fired at you from her Enchanted Bow, but missed.
Haborym rapidly fired at you from her Enchanted Bow, but missed.
Haborym rapidly fired at you from her Enchanted Bow for 43 points of damage.
Haborym rapidly fired at you from her Enchanted Bow for 52 points of damage.
Haborym rapidly fired at you from her Enchanted Bow for 47 points of damage.
You attacked Haborym with your weapon but Haborym's armor absorbed the blow.
You attacked Haborym with your weapon but Haborym's armor absorbed the blow.
You attacked Haborym with your weapon for 39 points of damage.
You attacked Haborym with your weapon for 46 points of damage.
Gaian: yeepers
Haborym rapidly fired at you from her Enchanted Bow, but missed.
Haborym rapidly fired at you from her Enchanted Bow for 48 points of damage.
Haborym rapidly fired at you from her Enchanted Bow for 32 points of damage.
You attacked Haborym with your weapon for 47 points of damage.
You attacked Haborym with your weapon but Haborym's armor absorbed the blow.
You attacked Haborym with your weapon for 41 points of damage.
Gaian (20/241) (107/235)
Haborym (Leader) (103/275)
You attacked Haborym with your weapon but Haborym was mostly shielded by her armor for 10 points of damage.
You attacked Haborym with your weapon for 38 points of damage.
You attacked Haborym with your weapon but Haborym was partially protected by her armor for 11 points of damage.
Gaian (20/241) (107/235)
Haborym (Leader) (44/275)
Haborym rapidly fired at you from her Enchanted Bow for 42 points of damage. Killing you.
Gaian dropped an Advanced Mana Crystal.
Gaian dropped an Advanced Healing Potion.
Gaian dropped an Advanced Healing Potion.
Gaian dropped an Advanced Healing Potion.
Gaian fell to the floor, his injuries getting the better of him.
Gaian was resurrected here, after being killed by Haborym.
Countdown: 1
Countdown: GO!
Magik attacked you with his Halberd for 20 points of damage.
Magik attacked you with his Halberd but your armor blocked the blow.
Magik tried to attack you with his Halberd but missed.
You raise your arms, and summon a storm to strike on Magik for 44 points of damage.
Magik attacked you with his Halberd but your armor blocked the blow.
You raise your arms, and summon a storm to strike on Magik for 44 points of damage.
You raise your arms, and summon a storm to strike on Magik for 42 points of damage.
Magik attacked you with his Halberd but your armor blocked the blow.
You attempted to cast a spell, but it fizzled out.
You are too exhausted at the moment.
Magik attacked you with his Halberd for 14 points of damage.
You are too exhausted at the moment.
You are too exhausted at the moment.
Gaian (207/241) (156/235)
Magik (Leader) (168/29
Magik tried to attack you with his Halberd but missed.
Gaian: bummer
Magik attacked you with his Halberd but you were partially protected by your armor for 12 points of damage.
Magik attacked you with his Halberd for 16 points of damage.
Gaian: :-P
Magik resisted your Stormwrath.
You raise your arms, and summon a storm to strike on Magik for 22 points of damage.
You raise your arms, and summon a storm to strike on Magik for 45 points of damage.
Gaian (157/241) (127/235)
Magik (Leader) (102/29
Magik attacked you with his Halberd but your armor blocked the blow.
Magik attacked you with his Halberd for 26 points of damage.
Gaian (131/241) (127/235)
Magik (Leader) (102/29
Magik attacked you with his Halberd but your armor blocked the blow.
Magik attacked you with his Halberd but you were mostly shielded by your armor for 5 points of damage.
You raise your arms, and summon a storm to strike on Magik for 42 points of damage.
You raise your arms, and summon a storm to strike on Magik for 45 points of damage.
You raise your arms, and summon a storm to strike on Magik for 45 points of damage.
You got 100 gold pieces.
Magik dropped a Leather Gloves.
Magik fell to the floor, his injuries getting the better of him.
Against the ranger I only used Gaea’s and morph (100 armor) and if you ask me that fairly close if you look at the hp’s. Against Magik I used Gaea’s and stoneform (136 armour) and I dealt a hell of a lot more damage than I took. I actually killed tha ranger using the same method as against the fighter since the druid heal is actually worth using when ur only being hit for 40s. If anything I think a lot of peeps would say the druid is overpowered, /shrug…
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Re: Editions to new spells
« Reply #12 on: 03/10/03 at 15:56:15 » |
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LVL 19 druid AC: 25 with all three armor spells cast in the correct order AC:55 all thos spells give me a mere 10 AC they all see equal.
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Re: Editions to new spells
« Reply #13 on: 03/10/03 at 18:48:44 » |
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Well you can't cast all three together; not sure what level they can be acquired but Gaea's and stoneform give me +57(I think).
They are wisdom dependent so maybe your wisdom is very low or you've not cast something.
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Re: Editions to new spells
« Reply #14 on: 03/10/03 at 22:41:18 » |
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Druids are hardcore now, even when tied into morph, you stand alot better chance running in that, than running in humie form.
As for offensive spell casting, y'all should seriously morph more, that previous combat does hand to hand combat no justice. Like I've said before, with my level 27 Druid I have been able to take down archmaster, mostly spell casters, but some other non magic related classes aswell. Stoneform or whatever its called, plus gaeas blessing, then morph, is a dangerous little party, and the new morph system and the duration it lasts, means u only really need to carry about two mana crystals, allowing for 12 potions, which gives u a better chance than a mage.
I do however feel that you should be able to unmorph, but leave the cost at 100, if the druids decides to waste the mana by unmorphing, then so be it. As for changing the morphing system again, don't, the new one is wicked, and Nightmist players aren't happy unless they are pregnant dogging.
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