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Why not?
« on: 09/15/03 at 05:31:02 » |
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I'm just wondering why you cant buy/sell crits, gold or items for real money...i'm not ever thinking about spending cash and buying anything for *laughs heartily* Nightmist...i just want to know why you cant buy/sell things for real money and why some people have in the past and nothings happened to them.
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Re: Why not?
« Reply #1 on: 09/15/03 at 05:37:38 » |
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Something that may be concidered/totally flamed would be for all irl cash trades to go via JLH who takes a % cut from the trade to donate to the server *Shrug*
Just a though
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Re: Why not?
« Reply #2 on: 09/15/03 at 05:47:50 » |
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I think with how pissed the adminds got last time, we should just drop the whole spending irl money thing.
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Re: Why not?
« Reply #3 on: 09/15/03 at 05:49:07 » |
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Spending irl money on NM items screws up NM's economy. It goes on the same principle of not trading NM and other game items.
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Re: Why not?
« Reply #4 on: 09/15/03 at 07:44:20 » |
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How does it mess up the "economy" exactly...im not following
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Re: Why not?
« Reply #5 on: 09/15/03 at 07:52:01 » |
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Im sure its because they feel people are makin bread off their game while they sit back and make nuts. Whos fault is that...just because you broke annoyances arent chargin for the game dont mean i cant charge for mine 
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Re: Why not?
« Reply #6 on: 09/15/03 at 08:03:45 » |
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well everytime i donate i try to convince jlh to give me a cobalt but every time he sais "that would give you an unfair advantage towards the other players"
guess it's the same with buy'n crits and stuff
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Re: Why not?
« Reply #7 on: 09/15/03 at 08:05:56 » |
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no.....if you were to pay cash for a cobalt...thats adding to the game....all were doing is exchanging what already exists...we were adding anything.
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Re: Why not?
« Reply #8 on: 09/15/03 at 08:29:04 » |
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No, whut hes saying is that it throws the game off balance. Like someone could be more powerful in game and kill 2x players, or make an excessive amount of gold and throw off rankings because of things they bought with rl money. It gives them unfair advantage.
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Re: Why not?
« Reply #9 on: 09/15/03 at 14:33:51 » |
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on 09/15/03 at 08:29:04, Anonymous0 wrote:| No, whut hes saying is that it throws the game off balance. Like someone could be more powerful in game and kill 2x players, or make an excessive amount of gold and throw off rankings because of things they bought with rl money. It gives them unfair advantage. |
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OK, and the difference between that and giving crits/items away and/or sharing accounts is.........?
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Re: Why not?
« Reply #10 on: 09/15/03 at 16:19:09 » |
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That if you were allowed to sell tihngs on nm for real money then it would happen alot more than people just giving things away. And sharing crits does not give unfair advantage.
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Re: Why not?
« Reply #11 on: 09/15/03 at 17:45:24 » |
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I think the point is any noob with a spare 500 bucks could buy an account filled with lvl 30's and questies, and own the entire game without having to know the ins and outs of the game at all...
While on the other hand if that same noob had to roll his own chars, level them, sell them, buy some better stated chars, level them as well, and then have an amassed fortune, he would know the ins and outs of the game because he acctually had to play it to get what he wanted.
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Re: Why not?
« Reply #12 on: 09/15/03 at 17:48:20 » |
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You mean just like the n00b that had Boots of Haste? 
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Re: Why not?
« Reply #13 on: 09/15/03 at 17:53:24 » |
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Technically he didnt buy them though. Well not technically, he didnt buy them, he got them by winning the 'quest'.
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Re: Why not?
« Reply #14 on: 09/15/03 at 18:13:30 » |
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on 09/15/03 at 17:45:24, Bean wrote:| I an account filled with lvl 30's and questies, and own the entire game without having to know the ins and outs of the game at all... |
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I wasn't saying he bought them. But the two situations have the same outcome.
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Re: Why not?
« Reply #15 on: 09/15/03 at 18:15:03 » |
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on 09/15/03 at 17:45:24, Bean wrote:| I think the point is any noob with a spare 500 bucks could buy an account filled with lvl 30's and questies, and own the entire game without having to know the ins and outs of the game at all... |
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Please...people on here have been given many things and still most of those moochers dont compair to others that dont have the same ammt of items...so people have it and some dont....i think the players making cash that bothers certain people..
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Re: Why not?
« Reply #16 on: 09/15/03 at 19:05:57 » |
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Personally I don't think it has a lot to do with balance in the game.
The one explanation that sounds reasonable to me however is this:
The game was created by JLH and Pandilex, who spend a pretty large amount on keeping it running. Technically everything on that NM server belongs to them, we are merely granted the priviledge of using that server for our enjoyment.
So when we sell game items for rl money, we aren't even selling something that belongs to us, we are selling JLH's and Pandilex's property.
Even if the game goes p2p, we wouldn't be paying to "own" the accounts, we would pay for the privilege of using the game server. Everything on it still belongs to JLH and Pandilex.
Hence, the only people who would be allowed to sell those things, were the two head gurus.
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Re: Why not?
« Reply #17 on: 09/15/03 at 21:11:27 » |
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In such a case then, why not make it so if crits/items are sold for rl cash, the person(s) who shell out the monies are required to pay JLH/Pandiles RL cash in order to use said accounts/items. Thusly enabling them(the buyer) to get what they want and also aid in the the maintenance costs of MN.
If something is sought after, it can be obtained, I'm sure it does happen as well, and it goes un-noticed. Not everyone is stupid in such respect.
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Re: Why not?
« Reply #18 on: 09/15/03 at 21:29:34 » |
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think about it guys, it doesn't really screw up the nightmist economy. unlimited time+monsters screws it up far worse. i don't know what pan and jlh are pissed about in this respect but if i were in thier place i'd be mad as hell that people are making money off of my work.
now you may say that you worked hard to achieve your inventory of items and crits but they're still not yours. the crits you make are parts of a game that is not yours. if you tried to sell someone your savegame on your friend's console and cartridge we could all agree that you would be in the wrong. this is no different. just drop it guys.
edit for typos. i'm sleepy.
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Re: Why not?
« Reply #19 on: 09/15/03 at 22:06:20 » |
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What bothers me is that some people who try to sell their stuff for RL cash sells it cause they need the money. I tried to sell some of my stuff because I'm in debt, and I'm in school without having a work. I have a few choices; one is to sell things I got in my house (like TV, CD's, Stereo), another one is to sell stuff I got on NM. I'm sure most of you understands that I'd kind of enjoy keeping things like my TV as long as I can, but what about my stuff on here? *idea* I can sell most of it and get a nice chunk of money, but still keep enough crits to play the game! Selling things on here doesn't hurt anyone. JLH or Pandilex can't get in trouble for it, both me and the buyer are happy with it, so what's the problem?
Unfortunately, JLH and Pandilex would rather screw my RL up than letting me do a trade that everyone's fine with. Since they can't get in trouble because of this, in any way, I figured that the only possible reason is that they don't give a **** about me or other players sharing the same IRL problems. They'd rather stick with their silly principles than allowing me to keep a fair life... just because they can?
Bottom line; thanks JLH and Pandilex for doing your best to take away the good things I've got in my life. You've got the chance to help me out really much without lifting a finger, but instead you put effort in doing the opposite. Thank you very much.
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