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Pacifist Bug(s)
« on: 07/17/03 at 18:00:45 » |
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My friend asked me to post this, since there are no staff members currently on line (or they won't answer his yells) and he doesn't have a forum account. He is Tukwut ingame.
I have found two major flaws in the Pacifist system.
Flaw one: They ignore having to kill monsters to pass. This means that they can go all the way through certain areas without having to kill a boss or whatnot and get the item with virtually no work at all. Prime example is Zanitos. They can go straight through!
Flaw two: Also involving ignoring killing monsters to pass. They can get out of certain traps with monsters in them, or squares they aren't meant to get out of. The monsters in these squares will then follow the Pacifists out and be able to roam freely through the realms. I saw the Vinewhip Troll running loos yesterday and Zephie had to come kill it. I saw it running loose again today, as well, due to a Pacifist dragging it out.
Please, fix these as soon as possible! Otherwise Pacifists will be used as tools of unfair play!
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Mephistroth
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Re: Pacifist Bug(s)
« Reply #1 on: 07/17/03 at 18:04:16 » |
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First one isn't a problem, how are they supposed to get past a monster without killing it? I thought the whole point of this class was to be able to survive on its own, how are they supposed to do that if they can't pass monsters?
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Re: Pacifist Bug(s)
« Reply #2 on: 07/17/03 at 18:06:15 » |
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lol you know like going to dg you have to kill 5 or 6 demonics first before you can go there. why would a pacifist be able to pass them withouth having to kill them while other classes can only pass after they are killed?
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Re: Pacifist Bug(s)
« Reply #3 on: 07/17/03 at 18:11:39 » |
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Not sure if this was mentioned any where, after you use Recall it doesnt tell you that you have moved. Has this been fixed?
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Re: Pacifist Bug(s)
« Reply #4 on: 07/17/03 at 18:13:08 » |
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showed me my deity took me somewhere
but for the first bug it's good as it is cuz otherwise pacifists would for example never be able to reach desert and some other areas.
second bug i talkied to jlh he said:
JLH:
the vinewhip troll has a 40% chance to follow, it should be 0
so guess he'll fix that soon too 
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Re: Pacifist Bug(s)
« Reply #5 on: 07/17/03 at 18:13:23 » |
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it says "You chant to your deity and are recalled away!"
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Re: Pacifist Bug(s)
« Reply #6 on: 07/17/03 at 18:39:13 » |
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on 07/17/03 at 18:06:15, Jurian wrote:| lol you know like going to dg you have to kill 5 or 6 demonics first before you can go there. why would a pacifist be able to pass them withouth having to kill them while other classes can only pass after they are killed? |
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That's pretty much the only area they can get through.. How the hell would a pacifist kill a granite beast? It wouldnt.. therefore there needs to be some way for them to pass.
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Re: Pacifist Bug(s)
« Reply #7 on: 07/17/03 at 19:30:19 » |
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read my second post and the other was an example of a place where you have to kill monsters to get past
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Re: Pacifist Bug(s)
« Reply #8 on: 07/17/03 at 19:35:53 » |
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Pacifists can also walk through the demonics, kinda cool 
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Re: Pacifist Bug(s)
« Reply #9 on: 07/17/03 at 23:17:33 » |
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While my pacifist can still walk past Zanitos, I get stopped by Mutant Maggots in the sewer drain. Is this intentional?
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Re: Pacifist Bug(s)
« Reply #10 on: 07/17/03 at 23:18:56 » |
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for releasing the tortured essence of the Skeleton, your Deity grants you 0 hp.
Has happened 10-20 times when i was killin monsters... and I DIDNT have full mana.
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Re: Pacifist Bug(s)
« Reply #11 on: 07/17/03 at 23:24:03 » |
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you mean hp?
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Re: Pacifist Bug(s)
« Reply #12 on: 07/17/03 at 23:38:34 » |
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on 07/17/03 at 23:18:56, Bean wrote:for releasing the tortured essence of the Skeleton, your Deity grants you 0 hp.
Has happened 10-20 times when i was killin monsters... and I DIDNT have full mana. |
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I have also seen this happen. It occurs when I have full hp but do not have full mana. I'm guessing that the code that provides the bonus first randomly determines whether HP or MP will be restored, selects a random amount of HP/MP to restore, and then checks against the character's maximum HP/MP. Perhaps the code could be altered to always restore mana when the pacifist has full HP and vice-versa.
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« Reply #13 on: 07/18/03 at 00:13:09 » |
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Right I meant hp... lol.
But yes i just had it occur where I had full hp but not full mana and it insists on giving me hp.... Shouldnt your diety know what you need?
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Re: Pacifist Bug(s)
« Reply #14 on: 07/18/03 at 00:33:22 » |
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Don`t know if it is a bug, but I have over 12 hours game time and haven`t been hungry yet.
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Re: Pacifist Bug(s)
« Reply #15 on: 07/18/03 at 00:34:57 » |
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You've prolly leveled up though. I think they changed it so when you level up you also refresh yourself.
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Re: Pacifist Bug(s)
« Reply #16 on: 07/18/03 at 00:45:55 » |
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on 07/18/03 at 00:34:57, Sausage wrote:| You've prolly leveled up though. I think they changed it so when you level up you also refresh yourself. |
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My last level up was many hours ago. Kinda strange I thought.
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Re: Pacifist Bug(s)
« Reply #17 on: 07/18/03 at 00:49:57 » |
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Hmmm, I dunno then. I seem to be getting hungry and thirsty though.. (Not that it's a problem.)
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Re: Pacifist Bug(s)
« Reply #18 on: 07/18/03 at 01:40:25 » |
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I meant, my local was Boars Tusk, and I used Recall and It didnt say I was in Boars Tusk, I had to hit "enter".
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Re: Pacifist Bug(s)
« Reply #19 on: 07/18/03 at 01:43:12 » |
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It does that for me too... Not a biggie the way I see it. But it would make sense for it to appear.
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